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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Below is a link to direct quotes from the Quran/Koran on this subject. They are taken from an official administrative complaint against the San Luis Coastal Unified School District. Violence advocated against infidels is not related to age but is for the sin of non-belief. http://www.blessedcause.org/complaint/Quran%20Koran%20Quotes.htm
Wow. That's scary. Not as much the Koran quotes (I've seen just as much hostility towards "others" in the Old Testament. Jericho, anyone? Wild bear let loose on 42 children?) but the argument from the complainers that pluralism is evil. They seem to really dislike the Constitution of the United States. By the way: I found nothing in those quotes that advocate killing infidel children, only general, vague hostility towards "unbelievers". The quotes themselves seem to be accurate, according to this searchable Koran site: http://www.islamicity.com/MOSQUE/ARABICSCRIPT/AYAT/8/8_55.htm By the way II: unsurprisingly, the Koran seem full of contradictions. Along with all the fury towards "unbelievers", there's this: 17:33 Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law). 107:1-7 Seest thou one who denies the Judgment (to come)? Then such is the (man) who repulses the orphan (with harshness), And encourages not the feeding of the indigent. So woe to the worshippers Who are neglectful of their prayers, Those who (want but) to be seen (of men), But refuse (to supply) (even) neighbourly needs. 5:69 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. In short, I'll go by the words of President Bush. Islam isn't evil, and the WoT shouldn't be construed as a war on Islam.
65 posted on 09/06/2004 10:00:50 AM PDT by At_a_distance
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To: At_a_distance
Believe what you want. It is literally against the law, in many Muslim countries, to worship as a Christian. Does that sound like a tolerant and peaceful religion? That's not so-called "extremists." That is the official policy of government in those countries.

The problem is Islam. You cannot separate it from the violence. Where are the moderates? Where is their indignation? The only help we get against the barbarians are from secular voices. We get nothing but excuses and blame from Islamic clerics.

President Bush's statements that Islam is a peaceful religion is a fiction. There is no evidence of that from the beginning of the cult and its violent founder.

It is uncomfortable for you and others to believe that Islam is evil in and of itself, but it is true. It is the worship of a false god and it defends the killing of innocents in the name of a false god. That is not something new. They nearly conquered Europe using that violence and they seem to be on the road in the same direction.

You seem comfortable with the moral equivalency argument by pointing to the Old Testament. What Jewish or Christian movement today slaughters innocents simply for their unbelief? There is no moral equivalency. PERIOD.

People should not deceive themselves. Islam is a threat to peace everywhere it has spread.

We are fighting this false religion whether you choose to believe it or not. We didn't start it. They did.

66 posted on 09/06/2004 10:39:06 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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