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We Now Exist in One of Those Moments in Time (Russia's Lost Children)
My own thoughts... | 09/05/04 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 09/05/2004 1:23:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne

In a world full of wonder, where there are hopes, aspirations and achievements, unbearable sadness sometimes overshadows everything decent for a few moments in time.  We now exist in one of those moments in time.

Once again humans on planet earth have demonstrated that there are no limits to the inhumanity men and women can heap upon their fellow human beings.  The most innocent of all, the blameless children of a neighboring state have been targeted for inhialation, not by mistake, but by design.  Hundreds are dead, many more vitally injured, terrorism's self-assuming lofty idealism, a miserable blur in the aftermath of this consummate hell on earth.

"Why oh why?" some might ask.  Not I.  There is no why to insanity.  There is no reason.  There is no justification.  There is no lofty idealism.  There is only a cataclysmic void where reason once existed.  Reason has taken a holiday, much to the world's collective sorrow.

We should all hang our heads in shame that a member of the world community could find in themselves the drive to become Satan's protagonists on earth.  There is no other explanation for this.  Men and women lost their minds, forfeited their very souls, carrying out an act that will earn them, not their cause, top billing.  That billing will exist in the ledger of the worst acts committed by an in-human being, in this old world's history.  Their cause, the excuse they used to justify their acts to themselves, will now rank beneath the effort to spare snails the need to slither over objects to get around.  In short, never again will Chechenian separatists gain access to the world's ear.  Their case is closed.

Imagine the thought process that surmised killing hundreds of innocent children, would lead the world to buy off on the idea that these same people should be ruling a sovereign nation.  It's shocking to think that someone with human intellect could be that foolish.  Here were men and women who couldn't find enough of the spark of human empathy inside them, to know that killing those innocent children was not the way to go about reshaping world opinion.  Instead of working within their own communities to improve them, these in-human bitches and bastards, devised an act so vile, inhumane and cowardly, that they will forever be despised by those who walk the earth upright on two feet.  I wouldn't be surprised if certain members of the primate family reviled them as well.  Certain intelligent species of aquatic mammals will probably communicate about this for years.  All of nature will remember this act.  Even the memory of it's perpetrators will be cursed for all of eternity.

The Russian people spent the better part of the 20th century under the guise of brutal oppression.  Today they seek to earn a meager existence, like every other society on planet earth, their deepest desires are to start a family, have children and raise them with devotion and love.  No, come to think of it, they are not like every other society on earth.  As we have just been shown, some societies on planet earth seek only to destroy.  Incapable of finding a positive goal in life, this society seeks nothing less than the destruction of all others.

It doesn't matter if it's Russia, the United States, Israel, European nations or some other society.  Any society but their own is an evil society.  They are so evil that even their children are fair game.

Not all of the perpetrators involved in this commission of terrorism, were Moslems.  Sadly a good number of them were.  I doubt there were any Christians among them, but if there were, let me be the first to damn them to hell.  Let me also be the first to say that if any of them claimed to be Christians, that claim will be the closest they'll get to actually being Christian.  Actual Christians who seek to emulate the spirit of the Living God, would never hate someone enough to kill their children.  Will we see an en-mass repudiation of this crime by Moslems.  There isn't a chance of that.  We have seen what Moslems are capable of.  We have also seen what they are not capable of.  

Terrorists of the world, take a long hard look at what terrorism buys you.  Realize that hatred of you crosses ethnic, religious, language, geographical and every other societal and global barrier.  Your cause is immediately relegated to the ash heap of debunked ideas.  Nobody buys into your idiotic mass hysteria, or suicidal tendencies.

If you wish to make everyone on the planet revile you, your immediate family, your cause and everything that ever meant anything to you at all, I advise you to continue your terrorist ways.

If you have valid gripes with other human beings, you may never get them addressed to your satisfaction, but by using terrorism you raise the odds of that to 100% against.  Commit an act of terrorism and your cause ceases to be valid at the very moment you commit that terrorism.  Never again will it be considered upon merit.

Get it?  Does any of this make sense to you?  Oh I doubt it.  There are more children out there.  Gotta get back to work..

I have a final word for you, terrorists.  Listen up.  My God might not strike you down today, but a day comes when He will.  Others will be resurected to live a life eternal, while you scream your last vile curses for all eternity.  Of those you kill, many will walk on your ashes, for we do worship a God who is mighty and unforgiving of what you are doing.

Citizens of Russia, our hearts go out to you.  We grieve for those who have been taken from you for a while.  We grieve for the family and friends of those lost.  Rest assured that those who have been taken from you will be restored on that glorious day.  I will pray that day comes soon for you and them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: chechenia; children; ossetia; russia; school; terrorism
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1 posted on 09/05/2004 1:23:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Talked to a russian friend today.
the muslims targetted the school because it is in an area KNOWN to be over 90 percent orthodox christians.

Because of that extremely high percentage of christian kids and their parents, on opening day, that school was virtually the orthodox equivalent of our local 'Jesuit High School' or St. Mary's elementary on "parents day" here in the USA. The muslims from Chechnya knew this and were looking to specifically murder and shed the blood of Christians. Apparently not enough jews around to desecrate and defile...

yes d1, you were right, they were muslims.
and about half, were apparently known to be of the al queaida variety.

YOUR prayer for the world, the USA and the Russians and their leadership... I am right there with you.
right there.

God help us see our own border problems before it's too late. If it ain't already.


2 posted on 09/05/2004 1:32:48 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I was just about to reply, you beat me to it.

There was a very good reason. A lone Christian population in the midst of surrounding terrorist islamics. Reduce them bigtime by killing 1000 of their children, right?

3 posted on 09/05/2004 1:38:44 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Thanks for sharing the comments of your friend. I appreciate the shared thoughts on the prayer as well as the immigration problems we face.

Sooner or later the Moslems among us are going to have to decide if they wish to become Americans, or return to a place where appreciation for such attrocities is commonplace.

If have no use for those who damn their own for adopting American ways. If someone considers that a sin, then boot their camel lovin' backsides all the way back to tin-buck-too.


4 posted on 09/05/2004 1:42:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: MarMema

I have no desire to kill their children.
I DO have a desire to see ALL their men over 15 dead.
And like typical muslims, who use their children for human sheilds, cannon fodder and political propaganda... i expect their child casualty rates to be rather high.

Christians put the women and children in the rear while the men and mom's fight to protect them. Muzzies put the children in the front, and fire from behind their kids and women, so that when the fire is returned, they can use the pictures of their decapitated family members, to stir up world sympathies.

When Russia takes a chunk out of chechnya, THIS American will turn a deaf ear, and a blind eye to the propaganda that Islamics pump out of the region. And I guess that means I don't care about the chechnyan human sheilds... which as always, is their kids.

If they don't care about children's lives, especially their own... WHY should the rest of the planet?


5 posted on 09/05/2004 1:52:06 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: DoughtyOne

You are an excellent writer.


6 posted on 09/05/2004 1:53:53 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Robert_Paulson2

There is truth in what you say there. We've seen it over and over in Israel.


7 posted on 09/05/2004 1:54:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I have no desire to kill their children.

No. I meant they could reduce the Christian population significantly by killing 1000 children in the school.

8 posted on 09/05/2004 1:56:28 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: DoughtyOne

I think we can expect them to pull this on our own soil.

TARGET?
I am guessing parochial schools, in so. cal, Az or Tx. THAT Way they kill a bunch of us they believe to be confirmed christians. And of course, many many of those kids, will be hispanic children of catholic parents.

I think they know that the jewish schools are on high security watches. Or should be.

WE need to pray that our leos get busy stopping this stuff, instead of constantly working on installing "red light" ticket vending machines... until we get a lock on HOW to undo our border problems, our first priority has to be stopping this particular type of threat.

IN particular, I would like to see ARMED teachers and parents in the halls at our schools, and perhaps retired ex military "seniors" who can still strap on a .45 three days a week... and watch the egress points to our public and private schools.

At least until we can get all the "gun free zone" signs reprinted in Arabic.


9 posted on 09/05/2004 1:59:42 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: MarMema

Of course that is EXACTLY what they wanted to do. I DO get your point. They want to EXTERMINATE all believers in Jesus Christ, the SON of God.


11 posted on 09/05/2004 2:03:04 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I agree that we are exposed, but then I am assured that 'he that hath no name here' stays up late at night thinking about every possible way to stop terrorists from committing acts on our soil. Not if, but when the day comes, when it actually happens on our soil committed by those who illegaly entered our nation, I'm going to be calling for a number of heads on a platter.


12 posted on 09/05/2004 2:07:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Well it works as a theory doesn't it? Then they could be much farther along on their dream of all of the Caucasus being Wahhabi.

It's just my theory, from something you posted, actually.

13 posted on 09/05/2004 2:09:17 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: DoughtyOne

I am assured that 'he that hath no name here' stays up late at night thinking



I think he does...
having said that, I am also confident that he is thinking about it harder than ever these next few days. this IS an aera of vulnerability.

I know the predator drones are patrolling 24/7, but somehow a few thousand pair of boots with night vision equipment would make me feel better.

I think the southwest desert would make EXCELLENT training for desert warfare and intelligence ops. In fact, if we could just open a new trans state training facility... 1500 miles long and one mile wide across our southern border, just think of all the money and lives we could save.

We would even save mexican nationals lives, by interdicting them before they are lost in the desert! Fox would love us right?


14 posted on 09/05/2004 2:16:30 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Yes it would save lives, and amongst the group you stated. I must say though, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that he is going to move against illegal immigrants. He thinks that would be wrong, perhaps even a sin. Obviously I disagree.


15 posted on 09/05/2004 2:19:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
I hope everyone understands that God see the brutal murder of hundreds of unborn little ones as the same thing as the Russian school massacre. The only difference is that an UNBORN MASSACRE happens EVERY SINGLE DAY, YEAR AFTER YEAR, and yet few are outraged.
16 posted on 09/05/2004 4:00:49 AM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: AmericaUnited
To: DoughtyOne

I hope everyone understands that God see the brutal murder of hundreds of unborn little ones as the same thing as the Russian school massacre. The only difference is that an UNBORN MASSACRE happens EVERY SINGLE DAY, YEAR AFTER YEAR, and yet few are outraged.

16 posted on 09/05/2004 4:00:49 AM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)


This is obviously an important issue for you.  It's an important issue for me too.  Forty million aborted fetuses over the last three and a half decades, amounts to genocide in my opinion.  It is wrong.  It shouldn't just stop today.  It should have stopped decades ago.

That being said, I must tell you that I very stridently disagree with your premise that God views the death of little fetuses the same as he would dead children from the age of a few months old up until eighteen years of age, not to mention the parents of all ages.

While I value the dead fetuses very highly, the impact on families and the community adds tremendous weight to the deaths of born walking around human beings.  The level of human suffering from this act of terrorism cannot be compared to the act of aborting a fetus, in any way other than to recognize the vast contrasts of impact.

The truth is, when a fetus is aborted, the parents may not even give a damn.  It's sad but true.  Relatives are seldom notified, so they aren't going to mourn.  Community members don't know, so they aren't going to mourn.

When a breathing human is killed, their parents, grand-parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, friends, community members, church members, nieghbors and communities grieve.  The personal connection places these lives in a different class than a fetus.

I'm not attempting to deminish the act of killing an innocent defenseless fetus.  I personally think it's a crime to kill one, but it just isn't the same as killing a born individual.

Does God view both deaths to be terrible and unfortunate?  You bet.  Does he view the terrible calamity of a fetus' demise, in exactly the same manner as a murdered breathing being?  I simply cannot imagine that he would.

It is untrue that the only difference is that the unborn die every day.  Breathing humans are killed every single day, and their loss has an exponentially graver affect on all those around them.

I will join you in the call for the end of abortions.  I cannot join with you in recognizing the calamity that took place in Russia as the same as three hundred abortions.



17 posted on 09/05/2004 4:32:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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That being said, I must tell you that I very stridently disagree with your premise that God views the death of little fetuses the same as he would dead children from the age of a few months old up until eighteen years of age, not to mention the parents of all ages.

You're thinking/viewing like a human (very understandable :) ) and not as an eternal God.

You posted a great thread and I don't want to divert from it anymore. Go in peace my friend.

18 posted on 09/05/2004 4:42:29 AM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: AmericaUnited

Thank you for your gracious acceptance of my comments, even if you did obviosly disagree with my opinion.

Take care. Get some sleep.


19 posted on 09/05/2004 4:50:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
I join your prayers, and your grief at this atrocity.

I also join your anger and determination to wipe this abomination from the face of the earth.

20 posted on 09/05/2004 5:06:16 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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