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Suffering Effects of 50's A-Bomb Tests
NY Times ^ | September 5, 2004 | SARAH KERSHAW

Posted on 09/04/2004 5:49:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 09/04/2004 5:49:29 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; ...

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2 posted on 09/04/2004 5:50:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

They should get their hearings (closed to public), they should get support and coverage for early detection and treatment... and relocation funds if the area is deemed a danger to future generations. A panel consisting of community leaders and government officials to decide, and generate a report, and recommendations.

It is the proper thing to do.


3 posted on 09/04/2004 5:55:57 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: neverdem

It was the start of the Cold War, what's your point?


4 posted on 09/04/2004 5:57:09 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (It really is the Third World War)
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To: neverdem

Recompense is due. It is the only honorable path.


5 posted on 09/04/2004 5:59:45 PM PDT by Petronski (With what? Spitballs!?!)
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To: neverdem

[Asbestos suit DONNED. Sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]

Given the recent news about the Beslan school massacre,
I suggest that we resume above-ground nuclear tests.

a) These tests *could* be performed on known terrorist
training sites, or in the Bekka Valley, etc.

b) We could also eliminate excess nukes from the
Russian stockpile in the same way. I bet they'd
be only too glad to help :-)



6 posted on 09/04/2004 6:05:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

If they're anything like Chernobyl, there's little effect. If they're anything like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there's a health benefit in increased longevity and decreased incidence of disease.


7 posted on 09/04/2004 6:10:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: neverdem
I think they got several things wrong with this. Nevada is south of Idaho, so a north wind would probably not bring radiation to Idaho from the Nevada testing grounds.

However, the prevailing wind in the area of Idaho mentioned in the article is from the northwest, directly downstream from the Hanford nuclear reservation in the state of Washington.

We know that sometime in the '50s, Hanford released 5,000 curies of radioactive iodine "just to see what it would do." That stuff would have swept over the town of Emmett in Idaho, as well as my old home town of Weiser.

My mother died of thyroid cancer in 1988.

8 posted on 09/04/2004 6:10:37 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: coconutt2000
How much radiation do you think went over Japan with the Soviet and Chinese nuclear testing? Quite a bit and it is documented by the State Department. Any member of the 56th WRS or the 6091st Recon squadron based in Japan from 1958-1963 could tell you the facts. Japanese keep blaming the bombs from Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the source of their problem and want the US to feel guilt for those detonations. These folks in Idaho got little radiation compared to the Koreans and Japanese.
9 posted on 09/04/2004 6:12:18 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: neverdem

These people need to be treated fairly. However, the lack of knowledge is not one of their strong points. Every "kid" at the time knew of Strontium 90 and all the other crap.


10 posted on 09/04/2004 6:14:09 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: grey_whiskers

"Given the recent news about the Beslan school massacre,
I suggest that we resume above-ground nuclear tests. "

I support that idea.


11 posted on 09/04/2004 6:16:02 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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Whoops, I didnt quote your whole post. I meant above ground tests on Middle Eastern targets ;)


12 posted on 09/04/2004 6:17:16 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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13 posted on 09/04/2004 6:28:50 PM PDT by LibWhacker (It is the black heart of Islam, not its black face, to which millions object)
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To: coconutt2000

That may well be, but I am so skeptical of anything the NYT prints that it is hard for me to accept any story they print at face value.


14 posted on 09/04/2004 7:50:20 PM PDT by arjay (If the NYT is against it, it must be good for America.)
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To: neverdem

I hate to put a crimp in the story, but anytime you're complaining about the negative effects of something that happened 50 years ago, those effects by definition couldn't have been too great.

(Or you wouldn't still be alive.)


15 posted on 09/04/2004 8:02:35 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: neverdem
Here is an interesting factoid about the effects of fallout from the nuclear tests at the Nevada Proving Grounds.

A 1956 movie staring John Wayne was filmed in Utah, downwind from the NPG. One of the canyons they filmed the movie in was known to funnel the wind and dust into it. Many of the cast and crew later developed and died of cancer. The rate of cancer for a group of people in equal size was less than 1/2 the number that actually developed cancer.

16 posted on 09/04/2004 8:24:57 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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but anytime you're complaining about the negative effects of something that happened 50 years ago

My father-in-law worked at Oak Ridge in the middle 50's and died of a rare form of cancer in 1994. Richard Feynman died of the same rare form of cancer in 1988. Maybe it's just a coincidence.

17 posted on 09/04/2004 8:32:35 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Glenn

Anything that takes 40 or 50 years to kill you cannot be logically classified as an enormous threat.


18 posted on 09/04/2004 8:35:58 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: neverdem

The gentleman's plight is a sad one, BUT colon cancer is a major cause of cancer deaths in America and most of the sufferers weren't downwind of a nuclear test.


19 posted on 09/04/2004 8:37:03 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (What a bunch of effin girlie-men.)
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To: Restorer
I hate to put a crimp in the story, but anytime you're complaining about the negative effects of something that happened 50 years ago, those effects by definition couldn't have been too great.

Most cancers take decades to develop. I can't find a national organization of Pediatric Oncologists. The closest I could find is the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO).

20 posted on 09/04/2004 8:37:56 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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