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Mr Putin Will Not Be Moved By This Tragedy
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-5-2004 | Oleg Gordievsky

Posted on 09/04/2004 5:23:14 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 09/04/2004 5:23:24 PM PDT by blam
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No civilised person can deny that the hostage-takers have taken barbarity and inhumanity to new depths. But in President Putin, they are up against a leader who has as little regard for human life as they do.

Oh,he doesn't deny it, he does excuse it though.
Perhaps Putin is the bitter pill needed to cure what ails
them.


2 posted on 09/04/2004 5:30:13 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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3 posted on 09/04/2004 5:34:11 PM PDT by jla
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Well, in this country they blame America first when terrorist attacks happen.

Sounds like they're blaming Putin and Russian forces rather than terrorists for the situation that went down in Russian.

That being said, while I was watching the whole thing unfold, I told my husband it didn't look like the troops handling the situation were trained to deal with situations like this (at least not by the standards that our police and soliers meet.)


4 posted on 09/04/2004 5:34:54 PM PDT by dawn53
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No negotiations with terrorists, ever.
5 posted on 09/04/2004 5:35:40 PM PDT by dodger
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Those KGB types are so warm and fuzzy.


6 posted on 09/04/2004 5:36:24 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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Sympathy for Chechnya? No thanks. Go Putin.
7 posted on 09/04/2004 5:36:45 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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No negotiations with terrosists ... never, never, never.

It is to 'negotiate' with cancer.

8 posted on 09/04/2004 5:36:51 PM PDT by dodger
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Putin did the right thing. The author is right that the Russkies simply aren't as efficient or well trained as we are, but make no mistake: there was no other solution in this than the death of all or most of the terrorists. I hope Mr. Putin has finally figured out that Bush's "with us or against us" applied to him, too, and now knows which side of this war he's on.


9 posted on 09/04/2004 5:39:39 PM PDT by LS
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300 maybe 400 dead out of 1200 people. thats awful , but then how many would have died if the negotiators had decided to blow the whole place? the situation is over with great loss of life , but there is no guarantee more wouldnt have died if the negotiations had failed. maybe they actually saved some lives this way. Does anyone think the the terrorists there wouldnt have killed every man woman and child in that building.

I think they would have if negotiations had failed.


10 posted on 09/04/2004 5:43:53 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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This is a tinderbox situation. Putin better handle himself carefully. He hasn't prepared like he should have for terrorist attacks, but he's not about to give into the terrorist demands. Putin just got a swift kick in the ass to get his mess of a country in order. It'll be interesting to watch how his decisions unfold.
11 posted on 09/04/2004 5:44:16 PM PDT by demkicker
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The fact of the matter is these Animals were baby killers to call even them terrorists is not right..Once their identifies are found then their entire family from parents on down should be thrown in an incinerator,Everyone they had feelings for. just make them go away from this earth ..
12 posted on 09/04/2004 5:51:41 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: Fast1

Identities


13 posted on 09/04/2004 5:53:32 PM PDT by Fast1
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Putin believes he can bludgeon the Chechens into submission

The accuser of Putin doesn't bother to explain what his policy would be vis a vis Chechnya and why. Folks who don't offer and defend an alternative, and just kvetch, waste bandwidth.

14 posted on 09/04/2004 5:58:10 PM PDT by Torie
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The terrorists are totally to blame. Putin may have blundered, but he never took Innocent children hostage, but tried to free them.

So9

15 posted on 09/04/2004 6:05:55 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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Putin has been able to convince the world that his war in Chechnya is part of the global "war on terror". It is not. It is a totally avoidable civil war which has very little to do with Osama bin Laden or indeed any group of Islamic fanatics.

This guy's flat-out wrong.

LBT

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16 posted on 09/04/2004 6:07:26 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: blam

Why blame the rescuers on this? The negotiators were doing their thing, but the duct tape on one bomb failed, setting it off, and the terrorists freaked out and started killing. The rescuers weren't expecting that at that time, and had to scramble.


17 posted on 09/04/2004 6:08:57 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Beslan -- the true face of Islam.)
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It was not a "tragedy," it was cold-blooded mass murder by Islamic terrorists.

Putin did the right thing.

The only negotiation with terrorists should be "surrender or die."

Compromise with terrorists will only buy you more terrorism.

18 posted on 09/04/2004 6:09:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Fast1
"The fact of the matter is these Animals were baby killers to call even them terrorists is not right."

I think Putin ought to take the people that the terriorists were demanding be released and let the folks in Beslan have a go at them.

20 posted on 09/04/2004 6:14:11 PM PDT by blam
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