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Will the bounce affect the AWB sunset (probably vanity)

Posted on 09/04/2004 4:32:02 PM PDT by pillbox_girl

My first post ever (hope I'm doing it right).

I was extremely dissappointed to hear George Bush promise to renew the Clinton Ugly Gun Ban if it hits his desk, but I didn't worry too much because I knew the race would be close, and Bush is smart enough to know he will lose without the Pro Second Ammendment vote.

That was before the current collapse of the Kerry campaign (not that I have any problem with seeing Kerry go down in flames). Now I am worried about the size of the bounce and it happening so close to the last four days available to ressurrect the Ugly Gun Ban. I am concerned GW might think he no longer depends on the Pro Second Ammendment vote, and Feinstein (along with some turncoat senators like my own Gordon "Never Getting My Vote Again" Smith) might see this as an opportunity to sleaze a renewal onto his desk, and he would sign it. That would be the worst possible outcome, because it keeps the unconstitutional Ugly Gun Ban in place, and would probably put Kerry in the White House. I myself have vowed that, should the "Assault Weapon" Ban still exist on November 1, I will not vote for Bush on November 2 (though I still won't vote for Kerry).

Any thoughts? Is this a legitimate concern, or should I start folding my tinfoil hat now?


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KEYWORDS: awb; bang; banglist; bounce; bush; bushbounce; kettybait; saygoodbyetoawb; single; troll; uglygunban
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1 posted on 09/04/2004 4:32:03 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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To: pillbox_girl
Make that a definitely
2 posted on 09/04/2004 4:34:13 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
Definitely that the AWB will sunset.
3 posted on 09/04/2004 4:35:18 PM PDT by demlosers
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I think it is a moot issue. I'd be surprised if any of the Republican legislators passed this before the election.

It is a make it or break it deal for many of their constituents.

It is an ineffective law based on emotional response to the weapons rather than their lethality.


4 posted on 09/04/2004 4:35:36 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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It would be a good idea to call your senators and representatives monday and tell them to "sunset the ban!" for the good of the party.

It works equally well for either party.

If we keep the pressure up, we can sunset this unconstitutional monstrosity.

5 posted on 09/04/2004 4:38:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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BTW, Good job on your first post!


6 posted on 09/04/2004 4:39:28 PM PDT by marktwain
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Gun issues have really broken in the direction of the repubs since 2000. Have you heard Kerry talking about banning guns?


I'm not worried.


7 posted on 09/04/2004 4:39:58 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: pillbox_girl
Good post. Welcome to the Free Republic.


8 posted on 09/04/2004 4:40:23 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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You logged on to see if we won't vote for Bush?

BWAAAAAHAAAAAA.


9 posted on 09/04/2004 4:43:44 PM PDT by I got the rope
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Seriously. If he signs the AWB...he will lose. Count on it.


10 posted on 09/04/2004 4:44:43 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: pillbox_girl

The 2nd amendment is safe with this president.


11 posted on 09/04/2004 4:45:32 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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It will not be allowed to come up in a house committee - so there will be no vote. And I doubt the senate will take it up knowing that it can't pass the house.


12 posted on 09/04/2004 4:46:25 PM PDT by DmBarch
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That begs another question I forgot to include:

What is the likelihood of an evil twin of the AWB coming up after the current law sunsets, like around November 3?
13 posted on 09/04/2004 4:47:05 PM PDT by pillbox_girl
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Why do you think the dork is posing for these pictures?

The ban won't be resurrected until after Kerry wins.

14 posted on 09/04/2004 4:47:55 PM PDT by snooker (Kerry BETRAYED our troops when he returned from Viet Nam, don't let him do it again.)
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Just exactly WHEN did Bush say he will sign the AWB?

I haven't heard that in a long time.

In fact all the pro-AWB people seemed to be having a fit, because Bush IS allowing it to expire.


15 posted on 09/04/2004 4:48:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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There's simply no reason to make nice-nice with Chucky and DiFi. The undecided are already breaking for Bush. Actively pushing the AW ban renewal would not help him. It would, in fact, cost him votes from his base. The ban is now taking a ballistic flight path into the dirt; just like a dove on opening morning!
16 posted on 09/04/2004 4:48:31 PM PDT by Redcloak (This is my most clever tag line ever!)
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I don't see the House and Senate convening specifically to get the AWB in place.

Worst case scenario I forsee is it sunsets this month, and the House and Senate reinstate it next year.

17 posted on 09/04/2004 4:48:57 PM PDT by jude24 (sola gratia)
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To: I got the rope
You logged on to see if we won't vote for Bush?

Thank you, I thought I was the only one thinking that.

Any thoughts? Is this a legitimate concern, or should I start folding my tinfoil hat now?

No, never fold it. A tinfoil chapeau is stored carefully in the Y2K shelter when not being worn on your head.

18 posted on 09/04/2004 4:50:31 PM PDT by xJones
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To: pillbox_girl
Welcome! :))

As to the Klintoon/Brady AWB, It is set to die/expire on September 18/19, Automatically. If GWB is smart, he'll let it die. Tom Delay has said there's not enough support in the HR to renew the ban, Senate w/the RINOs is another matter. :|

19 posted on 09/04/2004 4:51:17 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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This really is a non-issue. Well all know that the ban has to make it thorough the House and Senate. While, it might make it through the Senate, it will never make it through the Senate. Just won't happen. Also, lets give a little bit of credit to the Bush Administration. The longer that I watch what is going on, the more respect I have for Rove.
20 posted on 09/04/2004 4:52:39 PM PDT by Mike1973
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