Posted on 09/03/2004 2:22:06 PM PDT by crushelits
Was Lt. Kerry AWOL from the Ready Reserve?
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was activing as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. (see photo below). The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
Since Lt. Kerry engaged in insurrection, rebellion and gave aid and comfort to the enemy while a member of the U.S. Armed Forces in violation of his oath, John Kerry should discontinue his campaign for the presidency and resign his seat in the U.S. Senate. Kerry disgraced his citizenship, and dishonored the USA. He is not fit for any public office, much less the highest office in the land.
John Forbes Kerry should also be tried for treason on behalf of the thousands of GIs who were killed and maimed while Kerry was aiding their enemy, and held to account for his part in the slaughter of millions of Asians by communists after the US abandoned SE Asia.
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A photograph of John Kerry being greeted by Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war protesters in the communist Vietnamese War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon).
See also Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists and Kerry Museum Photo Documented.
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=notAWOL
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=AWOL
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Acceptance_of_Discharge_Naval_Reserve.pdf
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=AWOL
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Enlistment_Contract.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Officer_Candidate_Agreement.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm
Last Updated Monday, August 30 2004 @ 06:32 AM PDT
Maybe Kerry DID drill after he was transferred into the Ready Reserve. One can drill for points and not get paid.
Or maybe he did to get the gov't to pay for his trips to Paris, etc. Nobody looked at that angle yet. Where did he get the money for his trips? Were his parents funding his sedition and his failed run for congress?
I think we're looking too deep and the answer may be on the surface. Who's to say all of the records regarding his active/reserve service have been released? Only Kerry knows for sure as he has never signed a SF180.
Well Johnny Botox, I made my reserve meetings.... where are you attendance records????
Yes, I answered this above. A reserve officers commission is indefinite, and you must resign the commission before your are discharged. Apparently he did not submite a letter of resignation until 21 Mar 2001.
An enlistment contract is fixed term and you are automatically discharged at the end of it, unless you voluntarily extend, or involutntarily extended in time of national emergency.
An officer has a commission not a contract. The commission is not automatically discharged and you can maintain a commission in the inactive reserve indefinitely.
Oh. Last time you accused him of treason. Probably with the war crimes claim is that the prosecutor still has to prove the case, and since there is little evidence that his statements were anything other than slander, it would have been a difficult charge to prove, even had the military decided to pursue this. Unfortunately a civilian's slander is not prosecutable under the UCMJ.
Quote it accurately. Secnav letter is the acceptance of his letter to resign his commission in the naval reserve (that is what it says it is) AND his discharge from the Naval Reserve.
Out of curiosity how did you incur a drilling obligation. Having served as an officer on active duty, Kerry would have incurred no drilling obligation.
Hey! Kerry's a dem-o-cRAT. We give dem-o-cRATs a pass when it comes to rules, don't we? (/sarc.)
You are only entitled to a pension based on incurring 20 "good years" meaning years of active duty and/or years where you satisfied the annual drilling requirements.
Believe me I am not defending Kerry in general, but his reserve records appear to be enirely normal and in order. This issue is going no where.
It doesn't appear that Kerry had a training obligation after returning from Vietnam, nor was he subject to the UCMJ.
This document certainly does not appear "normal"
1. It was "compiled" by a JAG officer in the Ofc of Legal Counsel......have you ever seen such a thing before? It contains only a few dates and a very minimal description of and NO DETAILS from the routine documents it purportedly represents.
2. Strangely, this "document" was typed on a plain sheet of paper, not a DOD form.
3. It was created on Jan 21, 1985, yet it contains no information newer than 1973! (be sure to scroll all the way down to see this 1985 notice)
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Service_Record.pdf
I would love to hear a plausible and reasonable explanation for so mush as even the existence of this "writing".
also, it seems that this "document" is contemporaneous to the 3rd (Lehman version) of the Silver Star citation.
weird, huh?
There is one little problem that explodes this neat little theory you have concocted. Kerry was not serving as a Nav[al] Officer when he did this. I am sorry, but he was inactive, and the UCMJ does not reach to acts committed by inactive personnel on their own time.
Really - leave the legal theories to O'Neil. He is a competent attorney, knows what he is doing, and has yet to stretch a fact to the breaking point or over-reach the law. You, on the other hand, are dangerously clueless and leading this whole thing down a dead-end. You are suckering a lot of people to follow you.
Well, unless we see the letter to which it was an enclosure we really don't know, however, all it is is a compilation of very ordinary and routine dates from his record. The last dates is 1978, not 1973. It is likely to be the last date since, as it says, that is the date that he was discharged from the U.S. Naval Reserve.
Not every official piece of correspondence relating to military personnel appears on a standard DoD form.
There are lots and lots of reasons why someone might request this information - having to do with, for example, dates of federal service to establish eligibility for leave, retirement, etc.
Given that the information that is compiled is very very routine, it would be very very dangerous to draw any adverse conclusions from its existence.
Given that you obviously have no experience reading an officer's service record, I suggest you give it up.
Thanks.
Nope, there are a large number of the ROTC grads that came through the window at the near the end of the Viet Nam War. Too many new gold bars for the shrinking army. The obligation was 6 or 8 years of reserves, I forget which, at this time of the morning. Does that answer your question?
I don't know but he has sure been AWOL from the United States Senate for 20 years. In hindsight, that is probably a good thing.
Yes, that answers my question. You incurred a drilling obligation in return for the government subsidising your college education.
Having been commissioned through OCS and having served on active duty, Kerry would have incurred no requirement to drill.
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