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Have nukes will travel
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 28, 2004 | James Gordon Prather

Posted on 09/03/2004 12:46:25 PM PDT by MikeJ75

Soon after the Warsaw Pact collapsed in 1989, Bush the Elder began retrieving the thousands of "tactical" nukes we had forward deployed in NATO countries for use against invading Warsaw Pact armies.

Did the Soviet Union follow suit? Well, no. It turns out that, although the Soviet Union had more than 15,000 tactical nukes for use against invading NATO armies, none had ever been deployed outside the Soviet Union.

Apparently, we are the only nuke power that has ever based our nukes – tactical and strategic – in foreign countries.

Why bring that up now?

Well, President Bush has just announced a planned "redeployment" of our armed forces, from bases in Western Europe, Japan and South Korea to new bases in new NATO countries or NATO-wannabes.

Presumably, the hundreds of tactical nukes now deployed with our troops overseas will go with them to their new bases located in former Warsaw Pact or Soviet Union countries.

The Russia-NATO Council was established several years ago to help transform NATO from a military alliance – dedicated to defeating the Warsaw Pact – into a politico-economic alliance – dedicated to defeating global terrorism, preventing proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and improving the economies of Russia and new NATO members.

Russia got a promise from the Council that substantial numbers of U.S. forces would not be stationed on its borders, especially in the Baltic States and in the Caucasus. But now, it looks like the neo-crazies intend to do exactly that.

And it won't matter who is elected in November. Clinton began pushing NATO eastward, toward Moscow. Bush kept the train moving and Kerry won't even try to stop it.

True, three years ago we got the almost unbelievable "intelligence" that President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin had agreed to the deployment of U.S. armed forces and tactical nukes to three former Soviet bases in Uzbekistan and another in Tajikistan.

We have since established a huge air base in Kyrgyzstan, which borders China, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. Uzbekistan and Tajikistan border on Afghanistan and are separated by Kazakhstan from Russia itself.

This unbelievable basing agreement was made in anticipation of a U.S.-led pre-emptive invasion and occupation of Afghanistan by NATO. So if Putin acquiesced to U.S. troops being stationed there in the former Soviet Union, it was in support of NATO counter-terrorism activities.

But why did Russia agree to our troops based in the former Soviet Union having tactical nukes?

Well, Bush the Younger had famously promised the world that he would not allow terrorists or rogue states supporting terrorists to acquire nukes. He promised he would act – pre-emptively – to prevent that acquisition.

Bush told the Russians he had "intelligence" that Osama bin Laden was interested in acquiring "weapons of mass destruction" and he and a loose nuke might be hiding in a cave in Afghanistan, which only another nuke could destroy.

Of course, we and the Russians now know that Osama didn't even have a vial of anthrax – much less a nuke. And even if we had dropped a nuke on those caves in Afghanistan we wouldn't have killed bin Laden. He had long since fled to Pakistan.

"Whoops," we told the Russians.

In 2003, Bush told the Russians he had to pre-emptively invade Iraq to destroy nukes and/or the makings thereof Bush said our "intelligence" indicated Saddam had hidden somewhere. The International Atomic Energy Agency told the Russians Saddam didn't, and it turned out to be right.

"Whoops", we told the Russians.

Now, Condi Rice and Bonkers Bolton are threatening to launch pre-emptive strikes against the nuclear reactor complex under construction by the Russians at Bushehr and against the gas-centrifuge uranium-enrichment plant under construction by the Iranians at Narantz.

Once constructed, both complexes will be operated, henceforth, under the watchful eyes of the IAEA. Therefore, it will not be possible for the Iranians to produce – surreptitiously – weapons-grade material from either complex.

Rice, Bolton and the neo-crazies keep telling you otherwise, but they're lying through their teeth. Why? Because they know that if they can't keep the Iranian complexes from "coming online," the Israelis will – by force.

So, before the Israelis do an Osiraq encore – using U.S.-supplied aircraft to kill Russian engineers this time, rather than French – it might be a good idea to retrieve all those nukes and troops we currently have deployed in the former Soviet Union. The French may have been satisfied with our "Whoops"; the Russians probably won't be.

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Physicist James Gordon Prather has served as a policy implementing official for national security-related technical matters in the Federal Energy Agency, the Energy Research and Development Administration, the Department of Energy, the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Department of the Army. Dr. Prather also served as legislative assistant for national security affairs to U.S. Sen. Henry Bellmon, R-Okla. -- ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee and member of the Senate Energy Committee and Appropriations Committee. Dr. Prather had earlier worked as a nuclear weapons physicist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and Sandia National Laboratory in New Mexico.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: blackhelicopters; kook; kooks; lol; nukes; tabloids; y2k

1 posted on 09/03/2004 12:46:26 PM PDT by MikeJ75
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To: MikeJ75

This article is too full of trash and speculation for even WND to publish...

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

2 posted on 09/03/2004 12:49:04 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MikeJ75
Apparently, we are the only nuke power that has ever based our nukes – tactical and strategic – in foreign countries

Yes, the Soviets had the courtesy to conquer and annex the foreign countries first, and then based nukes there.
3 posted on 09/03/2004 12:54:13 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: MikeJ75

Dr. Prather wrote a good article except for overlooking one little detail-The Cuban Missle Crisis. USSR had indeed placed tactical and strategic nuclear missles outside their own country. As for their not being placed in E.Europe, I would speculate that was a political decision(those darn little countries are always revolting so lets not leave the gift of nuclear weapons laying around).


4 posted on 09/03/2004 12:56:29 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: babyface00

what about Cuber?


5 posted on 09/03/2004 12:57:55 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: steve8714
what about Cuber

Its probably a technicality, but if memory serves, the Soviets didn't actually get to finish completely installing the missiles there. They were close, but I don't think they were ever fully operational.
6 posted on 09/03/2004 12:59:47 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: babyface00

Actually they had smaller nukes that were in Cuba and could have been used to combat an invasion.

Also, the Soviet Union borders Eastern Europe the last time I checked a map. There was no need to deploy tactical nukes when they could have been deployed in an hour.


8 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:57 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: DHerion
Actually they had smaller nukes that were in Cuba and could have been used to combat an invasion.

I didn't know that. Thanks for filling me in.

There was no need to deploy tactical nukes when they could have been deployed in an hour.

Good point. They could also have just rolled over the border with tanks. We didn't have nukes in Europe because we were defending the U.S. there, it was because we were defending Europe.
9 posted on 09/03/2004 1:24:30 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: crazyhorse691

But even that is a lie. The Soviets most assuredly deployed SRBMs and IRBMs, nukes and all, in E. Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia. Where does Mr. Prather get his info and why is he making such a big deal about this right now? What's in it for him, and whose bidding is he doing?


10 posted on 09/03/2004 1:33:01 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: MikeJ75
Once constructed, both complexes will be operated, henceforth, under the watchful eyes of the IAEA. Therefore, it will not be possible for the Iranians to produce – surreptitiously – weapons-grade material from either complex.

When the mullahs are able to produce weapons-grade material, they will produce it. The IAEA will not stop them.
11 posted on 09/03/2004 1:59:45 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: MikeJ75
Apparently, we are the only nuke power that has ever based our nukes – tactical and strategic – in foreign countries.

So what was the Cuban Missile Crisis all about?

12 posted on 09/03/2004 2:01:30 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Southack

It will be Israel, not the US that blows up the Iranian reactors just before they become active. Bet on it! They have to do it to prevent Iran from nuking Israel.

The US won't initiate the strike, but will provide some intelligence support as it is in our best interests as well.


13 posted on 09/03/2004 2:32:25 PM PDT by RicocheT
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