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Susan Estrich Warns of Upcoming Feces from Kerry and DNC on Bush-Cheney (Unhinged DNC alert)
Creators.Com ^ | 09/03/04 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 09/03/2004 10:49:46 AM PDT by WoodstockCat

My Democratic friends are mad as hell, and they aren't going to take it any more.

They are worried, having watched as another August smear campaign, full of lies and half-truths, takes its toll in the polls.

They are frustrated, mostly at the Kerry campaign, for naively believing that just because all the newspapers and news organizations that investigated the charges of the Swift Boat assassins found them to be full of lies and half-truths, they wouldn't take their toll. The word on the street is that Kerry himself was ready to fire back the day the story broke, but that his campaign, believing the charges would blow over if they ignored them, counseled restraint.

But most of all, activists Democrats are angry. As one who lived through an August like this, 16 years ago -- replete with rumors that were lies, which the Bush campaign claimed they had nothing to do with and later admitted they had planted -- I'm angry, too. I've been to this movie. I know how it works. Lies move numbers.

Remember the one about Dukakis suffering from depression after he lost the governorship? (Dukakis not crazy, more at 11.) We lost six points over that lie, planted by George W.'s close friend and colleague in the 1988 campaign, Lee Atwater. Or how about the one about Kitty Dukakis burning a flag at an antiwar demonstration, another out-and-out lie, which the Bush campaign denied having anything to do with, except that it turned out to have come from a United States senator via the Republican National Committee? Lee Atwater later apologized to me for that, too, on his deathbed. Did I mention that Lee's wife is connected to the woman running the Swift Boat campaign?

Never again, we said then.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; campaign; dirtytricks; election; fearfuldems; kerry
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To: WoodstockCat

Horrible old lying bitch! The swifties should sue her for libel!


101 posted on 09/03/2004 9:14:44 PM PDT by ozzymandus ("So it is written, so it shall be danced"-Al Bundy)
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To: WoodstockCat
They are frustrated, mostly at the Kerry campaign, for naively believing that just because all the newspapers and news organizations that investigated the charges of the Swift Boat assassins found them to be full of lies and half-truths, they wouldn't take their toll.

Uh-huh. War heroes are assassins. John Kerry really was in Cambodia. He really didn't flee from danger on the day he rescued Rassman. There really is no possibility that his first Purple Heart was accidentally self-inflicted. Just because the Kerry campaign now agrees with the Swifties on these things doesn't mean the Swifties are anything but lying scum, and don't you forget it.

102 posted on 09/03/2004 10:38:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: WoodstockCat

What a raving moonbat. The 60s left is getting absolutely desperate and this kind of squealing is their version of a death rattle.


103 posted on 09/03/2004 10:40:14 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Anti-war Movement: Roadkill on the Highway to Freedom)
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To: WoodstockCat

Was it Susan who told the press that Bush41 was shtupping his secretary, or was it that she fired someone who did that? Can't remember...


104 posted on 09/03/2004 10:41:37 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: WoodstockCat
Did I mention that Lee's wife is connected to the woman running the Swift Boat campaign?

Connected how? They shop at the same grocery store? Are they as closely connected as MoveOn's web guy and Kerry's webguy, who happen to be the same person? (just a coincidence, you understand.) And the last time I checked, Admiral Hoffman was running the Swiftvets, and he looks too butch to me to be a woman connected to anybody's wife.

105 posted on 09/03/2004 10:47:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: WoodstockCat

This could get pretty ugly, but the positive is that she spends most of the article fixating on two angles that the Dems have beaten on for five years without traction: Dubya's a drunk" and "Dubya dodged Vietnam."


106 posted on 09/03/2004 10:58:02 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: The Great Yazoo
Those guys will come across as bigger kooks than they already do.

They've already "kooked" the president into a second term! Maybe they'll "kook" us a super-majority congress too!
107 posted on 09/03/2004 11:01:28 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: WoodstockCat
Sorry for the multiple posts...she is deep in delusion. Even the partisan media doesn't buy into this "rumormongering did in Dukakis" crap. They'll smear Bush41 by telling you it was Willie Horton and the "L" word and "card-carrying ACLU member" that did it, but no one will tell you that Dukakis lost the election because somebody started a rumor about his wife being a hippie.

What if Bush were to fall off the wagon? Then what?

Rambette asks, "What if Susan Estrich decides to butcher the children who escaped her womb alive? What then?" Silverback asks, "What if President John Kerry (God forbid) has a flashback to his war crimes in 'Nam (he must have been telling the truth in '71, because the Swifties are "assassins") and has some small towns in Wisconsin razed, and their women raped?"

As Larry Flynt discovered, a million dollars loosens lips. Are there others to be loosened?

Susan's perhaps. Larry has needs, after all...

Yes, Flynt could spread money around and loosen some lips like he did about Henry Hyde, which is why no one thinks of oral sex when they hear the name Bill Clinton. The public knew why there was a smear then, and they'll know why now.

Also, if these tactics would be so easy to do, why wouldn't MoveOn have done them already? Why would Estrich be telegraphing these moves? My bet is that her "Democratic friends" running to form smear PACs are about as real as Dick Gephardt's billionaire friend who wanted to pay more taxes. This is a brush-back pitch, and 10 to 1 none of it ever happens.

108 posted on 09/03/2004 11:11:25 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: My2Cents
"having watched as another August smear campaign, full of lies and half-truths, takes its toll in the polls."

As Clinton settled for all time, modern Democrats have zero shame or decency.

A debate over which party is the nastier is so ludicrous that it doesn't even warrant dignifiying it with participation...let the liberals do their usual repetition of spiteful talking points and high-fiving the hosts who play straight men for their routines under the thinly veiled guise of "reporting".

Any question of who the nastier party is can be answered, IMO, in two words: Dan Quayle. Here is a man who is many times the man sKerry is, both in terms of accomplishment and decency, yet, with the help of their media whores, the Democrats stopped his ascendancy to national prominence with what has to rate as one of the most visciously orchestrated campaigns of hate in American political history. They turned him into a laughing stock and a pariah and were sooo proud of themselves for it.

They have tried mightily for years now to apply the same tactics to our president. They still get their hopes up that FINALLY they are on the verge of success. But even with a near monopoly on all facets of the media and all public education institutions, they can't understand why they haven't been able to get him laughed off the national stage.

NO WONDER THEY'RE PISSED! Afterall, the values of the current Democratic Party are all the worst traits of the Baby Boom generation...and they EXPECT to always have their way completely and it can't POSSIBLY be "fair" when they don't get it.

109 posted on 09/03/2004 11:28:58 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Misunderestimated Again Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: MrChips
Kerry hired Joe "Clinton press secretary during impeachment era" Lockhart, but you might also be thinking of Bob Shrum. Shrum is a smear artiste extraordinaire, and he even tried to knock Ann Richards out of the Texas gubernatorial race in '92 by spreading a rumor that she was a cokehead.

Worked real well, she never got to the governor's mansion...

110 posted on 09/03/2004 11:41:13 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: WoodstockCat

HEY, SUSAN PESTROGEN and all you other spit-ball riding gnats . . .

--Get a life.
--Get a brain.
--Get your facts straight for once in your lives!
--Go to 7/11 and buy a few gallons of horse sense.

You idiots must be driven by hormones and hate. It sure doesn't seem to be that you are driven by anything sane or constructive.

Your foresight as well as sense of history and values all seem to be wholesale absent from your consciousness and from your character.

In fact, it begins to seem more and more that you are getting your values piped in straight from hell.

Welllllllll, guess what--some of us are not so willing to so easily surrender our fair Republic up to your coveted global tyrannical government.

Soooooooooooooo, Susan Estrogen Pestrogen--stuff it in your . . . uhhhh . . . ears--they clearly aren't used for hearing, anyway.


111 posted on 09/04/2004 4:08:49 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: The_Victor

Kerry is hiding something in those records.

The Washington Post reports that Kerry has only released 6 pages of what are surely over 100 pages of military records.

So although I see that some troll-like freeper is pretending that the release of more records won't make a different, he is wrong and you are right.

If there was nothing to hide in those records, Kerry would have released them by now.


112 posted on 09/04/2004 8:11:01 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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