Why Fox News Is Clobbering the Competition

You are exactly right. For instance, today, Fox referred to the SBV ads as "attack" ads. It would be more objective to refer to the SBV ads as "rebuttal" ads. Ads calling Bush a NAZI and Hitler, etc are "attack" ads.

21 posted on 09/02/2004 9:04:22 PM PDT by Nephi (Why are we shooting terrorists in Iraq? We have plenty of liberals here in the US!)

This is the angriest convention in the history of politics.

They must not remember the fire and brim stone speeches of George Wallace. Or the insane ravings of Al Gore for that matter.

Zell hie them where it hurts and he hit them with the truth.

22 posted on 09/02/2004 9:14:34 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)

The Dems weren't watching either convention. A large number of Dems are ignorant and/or apathetic and can't read a ballot.

23 posted on 09/02/2004 9:15:20 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)

To: Phantom Lord

CNN was ahead of FOX at the Dem convention by a few hundred thousand viewers. FOX is ahead by around 4 million. I agree that FOX isn't especially conservative, it just presents both sides of an issue, which I think is what most people are looking for.

24 posted on 09/02/2004 9:34:49 PM PDT by bushinohio

The paying advertisers will not see it your way. The paying advertisers are boss, you ain't.

25 posted on 09/02/2004 9:40:08 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Bling... Bling... It.... On....)

Gee, I don't know why Fox is beating everyone out. I'm usually solidly in their camp but... I've been more entertained by MSNBC these past few nights.

Tonight while MSNBC was airing General Tommy Franks, O'Rielly was bloviating with that ugly, stupifying.. Bill Mahr!

Did a lot of channel surfing and got the best on MSNBC and C-Span.

26 posted on 09/02/2004 9:50:42 PM PDT by catfur (In my world, no outfit is complete without .cat fur)

came from here

You should check out the photo that Reuters had with this article.

Fox News Beats 3 Networks in Convention Coverage
Thu Sep 2, 9:41 PM ETAdd Entertainment - Reuters TV to My Yahoo!

By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Cable's Fox News Channel appeared to make TV history by twice drawing bigger audiences than any of the big three commercial networks in their first matchups of the Republican convention, ratings figures showed on Thursday.

The Fox News telecast of Wednesday's speeches by Democratic conservative Zell Miller and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) averaged 5.9 million viewers during the 10 o'clock hour in which ABC, CBS and NBC joined live coverage of the proceedings.

That was even more than the network-leading 5.2 million viewers who tuned into Fox on Tuesday to hear California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) and first lady Laura Bush address the GOP delegates at New York's Madison Square Garden.

But the actor turned politician and Laura Bush proved more popular overall, with the combined audience for the three major broadcast networks and three cable outlets -- Fox News, CNN and MSNBC -- totaling 22.1 million on Tuesday, according to Nielsen Media Research.

The Miller-Cheney hour on Wednesday drew 18 million.

NBC ranked second on both Tuesday and Wednesday, with 5.1 million and 4.5 million viewers, respectively. CBS fell from 4.4 million on Tuesday to a lowly 2.6 million on Wednesday, suffering from a weak "lead-in" from the Latin Grammy Awards an hour earlier.

ABC fell from 4.3 million to 3.3 million one night to the next, while cable networks MSNBC and CNN also lost viewers, each dipping from more than 1.5 million to about 1.2 million. MSNBC finished both nights slightly ahead of CNN.

The Fox victory was believed to be the first time a cable channel has attracted more viewers than any of the three major broadcasters during an event covered by all the networks, the News Corp.-owned outlet said.

Broadcast network executives grumbled privately that Fox's triumph was no surprise given the cable channel's reputation as a conservative-leaning outlet favored by the Republican Party. One network official who spoke on condition of anonymity called the Republican National Convention a "made-for-Fox event."

Fox News spokesman Rob Zimmerman dismissed the barbs as sour grapes, saying: "The numbers speak for themselves. We obviously have a mass appeal."

By comparison, Fox's audience for former President Bill Clinton (news - web sites)'s speech on opening night of the Democratic convention in July -- also covered by all six networks -- averaged just 1.4 million viewers, while 2.5 million tuned into CNN.

As they did for the Democrats in Boston, the broadcast networks are limiting their prime-time coverage of the Republican convention in New York to one hour a night for three nights and skipping one evening of the event altogether. The three cable outlets are offering gavel-to-gavel coverage.

NBC is owned by General Electric Co. . CBS is a division of Viacom Inc. . ABC is owned by the Walt Disney Co. . CNN is a unit of Time Warner Inc. . MSNBC is a joint venture between NBC and Microsoft Corp. .

27 posted on 09/02/2004 10:14:18 PM PDT by united1000 (Politicans are like diapers. They both need to be changed often and for the same reason.)

FOX News is biased, the alphabets as well as CNN and MSNBC are nothing more than Leftist propaganda mills, churning out BS as gospel.

28 posted on 09/02/2004 11:00:21 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)

To: Phantom Lord

Before and after President Bush spoke I was checking the other channels. With the exception of CSPAN they were in full dirge mode.

Was there bias? You bet your sweet ass there was!

That is why FoxNews wins.

Its the New Media, and it works.

The old media is stuck in the past, and it appears to be unaware of its obvious demise.

29 posted on 09/02/2004 11:18:31 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)

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30 posted on 09/03/2004 8:38:14 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)

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31 posted on 09/03/2004 10:21:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl

To: Vision Thing

"The paying advertisers will not see it your way. The paying advertisers are boss, you ain't."

Whenever I post, I always seem to draw friendly fire.

It's hard for me to rejoice in FoxNews' success when their non-liberal coverage of a conservative event barely leads the pack. The rest of the pack is unified in deceptive liberal spin and reaching many times more people with that spin than Fox is reaching with the "Fair and Balanced" approach. It's good news for Fox but there is little reason to rejoice that the truth is winning.

Most people are still watching the lies

32 posted on 09/03/2004 11:07:37 PM PDT by doblin

Why fox news is clobbering the competition. Nothing hard to figure out. People got tired, make that sick, of advocacy journalist masquerading themselves as objective.

33 posted on 09/03/2004 11:34:05 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)

You're stuck on static analysis. Yes, Fox News barely won on the first two nights going head-to-head against the nets (although they blew away the competition by drawing 7 million for President Bush's speech, according to Brian Wilson on Fox News's Special Report with Brit Hume on Friday). That's the snapshot of the current state of TV. However, your choice and willingness to suffer prevents you from noticing that the trends are moving away from the Liberal media.

You also make the mistake that the Americans who watched the nets are mindnumbed robots who cannot think for themselves. You're absolutely, howingly wrong if you think all those people are monolithically swallowing the lies of the nets without questioning them. Sure, perhaps 50 percent are slaves to the opinions of the nets, However, you're a glutton for abuse if you think all 100 percent of them are mindslaves.

The trends are going against the negative view that you choose to hold. I'll choose to notice the relevant trend going the Republican way. You choose to wallow in what you perceive to be the Godawful Now. You choose to suffer. So be it. We're all free. I'm not even going to try to convince you anymore because your mind is made up. You've made your choice. Live with it. Embrace it. Love it. Live it.

34 posted on 09/04/2004 1:08:32 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Bling... Bling... It.... On....)

"Why is Fox news Clobbering the Competition?"

Easy answer... Well over 40% of sentient Americans consider themselves conservatives. We get our news from the New Media; the Internet, Blogs coming on strong too, we simply aren't captive of the MSM anymore; and we voted a long time ago (Sorry Ran Blather, Tom Lockjaw, and Peter the Canadian); you lost. We've got the Internet and the MSM lost it's monopoly (THANK GOD!!!).

We simply don't want, or accept, the MSM spin anymore; that leaves us with FOX...

I haven't watched the MSM newscasts in years now... And I never will again...

35 posted on 09/04/2004 1:22:52 PM PDT by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")

Bush's national TV audience topped Kerry's speech at the Democratic convention in July by just over 3 million viewers, among those watching Big Three commercial networks ABC, CBS and NBC and the three leading cable news outlets -- Fox, CNN and MSNBC.

The Republican meeting as a whole also drew bigger audiences than the Democrats, averaging 22.6 million viewers over four nights at New York City's Madison Square Garden, compared with 20.4 million mustered by Kerry and his party in Boston in July.

Meanwhile, Fox News continued its unprecedented ratings dominance over this year's Republican convention, edging out not only its cable rivals but each of the major broadcast networks by drawing 7.3 million viewers to its telecast of Bush's address.

That marked the third straight night Fox has surpassed its larger broadcast rivals in the first case of a cable channel attracting more viewers than any of the three major networks during a scheduled event covered by all of them, experts said.

NBC ranked second on Thursday with 5.9 million viewers, followed by ABC with 5.1 million and CBS with 5 million. CNN finished fifth with 2.6 million viewers while NBC's sister cable channel, MSNBC, brought up the rear with 1.7 million.

Fox benefited from the fact that its audience is "ideologically very much aligned with the Republican Party" and apparently turned out in larger numbers to watch the GOP convention than the Democrats, said independent network news analyst Andrew Tyndall.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=597&e=2&u=/nm/20040904/tv_nm/campaign_media_convention_dc

36 posted on 09/04/2004 1:30:34 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)

Thanks for the ping.

37 posted on 09/04/2004 8:46:37 PM PDT by GOPJ

Wonder if media shareholders understand the Faustian bargain...

But in the television news business it seems you have entire networks willing to go down because of their ideology. In effect, it doesn't matter what their customers want. They are not willing to respond to the marketplace even if it means losing ratings and viewers.

38 posted on 09/04/2004 8:56:02 PM PDT by GOPJ

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