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Officer: Deserter not a conscientious objector
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post_article ^ | 2 September 2004 | Radix

Posted on 09/02/2004 2:41:10 PM PDT by Radix

There is an article on another Internet site concerning a Soldier who is being charged with desertion.

The defense is claiming that this soldier who voluntarily enlisted in the United States armed forces is now a conscientious objector.

Ok, so one can sign up and swear an oath, but if ever conflict arises then our troops should just be able to bail.

I am sorry but in my humble opinion this sort of rationalization could lead to chaos in our Military.

It is so sad that Free Republic cannot have articles linked from certain sites who are supposedly representative of our Armed Forces. That is truly sad.

I would advise all FReepers to not got to the ArmyTimes website.

Please avoid MilitaryCity dot com.

We would not want to get in trouble by invoking our constitutionaly protected rights to comment negatively concerning the Rights that so-called journalistic enterprises regularly invoke.

Indeed, please do not mention anything on FR.com concerning an article which is found at

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-334182.php


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armynews; deserter; desertion
Please respect the 1st Amendment Rights of Institutions which naturally rever such rights for all so passionately.

Please avoid this web site which I will reluctantly post a link to in my next post!

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-334182.php

1 posted on 09/02/2004 2:41:10 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Radix

I really would advise FReepers to not read this article if they know or care about ahat is good for Freedom of the Press.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-334182.php


2 posted on 09/02/2004 2:42:38 PM PDT by Radix (This isn't a Tag Line? Well, could you point me to one?)
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To: Radix

Ok. I totally ignored your links.


3 posted on 09/02/2004 2:49:57 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: Radix
The U.S. military does have a standard policy that a soldier can use if he wants to claim he's become a conscientious objector. But as you'd imagine, the procedure is complex and time-consuming -- they doesn't want to make it easy. For the most part, this policy seems to work okay.

Soldiers who don't want to follow the policy should not expect lenient treatment from military justice.

4 posted on 09/02/2004 3:17:21 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Radix

Thanks for the warning, I've blocked those sites from my computer.


5 posted on 09/02/2004 3:27:13 PM PDT by bayourod (You're either for President Bush or against him. There is no "but...")
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To: Radix

>>Army Capt. Michael W. Johnson conducted a conscientious objector hearing for Pvt. Camilo Mejia in June at the Fort Sill correctional facility where Mejia is being held.<<

The Army appears to be following standard procedure for processing conscientious objector claims.

Just saying "I saw terrible, terrible things and I hate war" doesn't cut it - especially if you have already performed duties as a soldier under combat conditions. This deserter was a SSgt, so he can't claim to be ignorant of what the Army does. It also doesn't help that he has been convicted of an offense and is now claiming C.O. status in an apparent attempt to escape the punishment for his crime.

IIRC, the claim has to be founded on well-established, recognized moral or religious grounds that are deeply held for some duration prior to the decision to claim C.O. status. The C.O. has to document this with evidence. After speaking to the C.O. and reviewing the evidence, the hearing officer has to make a recommendation to approve or not approve. The captain recommended nonapproval (i.e., his C.O. claim is not properly founded according to the criteria in the regulation). Round One to the good guys.

Not surprisingly, the deserter's lawyers are going to appeal.


6 posted on 09/02/2004 3:31:56 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: Radix

The Army does have a mechanism to deal with this kind of unfortunate occurrence. Unfortunately, part of the solution involves several years of residence at one of the Army's facilities in Leavenworth...


7 posted on 09/02/2004 3:44:33 PM PDT by wastoute
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Alvin York was a pacifist yet he fought in a war for the greater good. I wonder if there is more fear than pacifism ruling the deserter's choice.


8 posted on 09/02/2004 3:54:11 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: wastoute

The view is not bad if you have a poolside room. :~)


9 posted on 09/02/2004 3:56:13 PM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Radix
I am sorry but in my humble opinion this sort of rationalization could lead to chaos in our Military.

Cowardice is covered in the UCMJ rather than in leadership manuals precisely because it is rare, and making it easier (or harder) for the coward to bail out probably wouldn't have any effect at all on the everyday military. There are just too few cowards to matter.

10 posted on 09/02/2004 4:40:15 PM PDT by Grut
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