Posted on 09/02/2004 5:23:32 AM PDT by Drawsing
Last night after Cheney's speech on my local public tv channel, there was a short panel discussion with Jim Lehrer, Mark Shields and some other semi-conservative guy...I don't know his name. Anyway Shields said that Miller and Cheney had lied about Kerry's UN statement. Lehrer then turned to the "conservative" guy and asked him, "Well, was it a lie?". They guy laughed nervously and said, "Well it was a stretch...but they all do it."
I seem to recall that this is not a lie, but something Kerry said or wrote early in his political career. Can someone point me to the source?
That was beautiful. Shields had an expression on his face like he just saw a litter of pups get shot-gunned. Then he had the audacity to call Zell Miller a liar. David Brooks, God bless him, gets a little excited when he hears absurdities like that, but Shields' expression screamed "Mommy!"
I believe he said it when he was in law school...I am sure it can be found on the Winter Soldier site.
Brooks was the last name of the semi-conservative guy whom, I believe, was from the NY Times. He indicated it was "stretching the truth" but Kerry did actually say it, just many years ago and covered that later by saying it was something a young man just back from Viet Nam would say and that it was wrong.
If anyone knows where and when kerry said this...PLEASE post it here...I want to send a strong letter to Jim Lehrer and Mark Shields before tonight's airing of the convention!
It was horrific to see shields act like he did last night!
He is furious at Zell and tried to diminish Zell's integrity!
Kerry said it in the early 70's, and presumably he doesent mean it today.. But said it, he did.
Well, there's this:
When Kerry Snubs the UN
By Joel Mowbray
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 28, 2004
Although the answer changes from week to week, the general consensus of John Kerry’s comments over the past 18 months indicates that the Democratic presidential candidate believes the United States should make every effort to work through the United Nations before acting to defend itself.
Kerry, however, does not believe Israel should be burdened by such a requirement.
It’s not entirely clear why, but then again, nothing with Kerry is.
No one is sure what Kerry’s exact position is on the question of Iraq and the UN, but when asked on “Meet the Press” by the incomparable Tim Russert if Bush was right to go to war, Kerry responded, “I think the way the president went to war was a mistake.”
He didn’t think attacking Iraq was a “mistake.” He did, lest we forget, vote to give President Bush the authority to go to war.
But Kerry made it clear—as he has repeatedly in recent months—that the “mistake” was Bush’s decision to go to war without the seal of approval of the UN.
Kerry told Russert, “If I'm president, I will not only personally go to the UN, I will go to other capitals” if ever in a similar position.
(In the same article it cites Kerry as praising Israel for not going to the UN before responding to Palestinian attacks, but that's only when he's speaking to Jewish voters...)
Mark Shields is an ultraliberal ideologue.
Yeah Shields was embarassing. You should have seen him when Karl Rove was in the booth.
Shields is a chinless p****!
Kerry has said he would on one day and then he's said he wouldn't on another day ---- just like so many other things Kerry has said
from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1181252/posts
Post #45 by ketchikan
"In 1971 Kerry told the Harvard Crimson that HE WOULD DEPLOY U.S. MILITARY ONLY UNDER UN COMMAND!!!!!"
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=357339
Very good. You beat me to it.
Shields was his usual clammy self. Karl Rove smacked him around pretty good in an earlier discussion.
David Brock (the semi-conservative you mentioned) from the ny times seemed to be enjoying the moment and really didn't seem to care what Shields thought.
"Shields is a chinless p****!"
I think "chinless" is a bit harsh. I refer to him as "Panty" Shields.
haha. He was even questioned by Tim Russert about it recently (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4772030/%3Cp%3E%20Brad%20Greer%20is%20a%20Union%20University%20graduate,%20business%20owner%20and%20political%20strategist.%20He%20can%20be%20reached%20at%20Premier%20Promotions,%20111%20Tucker%20St.,%20Jackson,%20TN%2038301. )...
MR. RUSSERT: And people refer back to an interview when you first ran for Congress, back with The Harvard Crimson, where you said, "Kerry said the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."
Thanks everyone for the info. This is what I needed. Now I am going to go find some email addresses for the Lehrer show.
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