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Time to compare today's "conservatives" to a real Conservative.

1 posted on 09/01/2004 3:57:32 PM PDT by PsyOp

To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

2 posted on 09/01/2004 4:00:33 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)

Does anyone remember that Goldwater drifted to the left toward the end of his life? I believe he suffered from Alzheimers and/or strokes.

3 posted on 09/01/2004 4:09:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (President Bush is conservative only when compared with the commies allied against him.)

But for an ad with a daisy being plucked and a mushroom cloud appearing.. what might have been.

Good post.. Thanks.

4 posted on 09/01/2004 4:10:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .... http://www.freekerrybook.com/ ..... 'The New Soldier' in pdf format)

Bump for a true conservative! AuH₂O

5 posted on 09/01/2004 4:12:43 PM PDT by 4CJ (||) Our sins put Him on the Cross, His love for us kept Him there (||)

The future, as I see it, will unfold along one of two paths................. Or we will summon the will and the means for taking the initiative, and wage a war of attrition against them--and hope, thereby, to bring about the internal disintegration of the Communist empire.

Prescient!

Goldwater wrote that scenario 30 years before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

8 posted on 09/01/2004 4:20:41 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)

9 posted on 09/01/2004 4:24:50 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")

Thank you my good man!

14 posted on 09/01/2004 4:30:44 PM PDT by Barry Goldwater

How dare you post such heresy! You must be voting for Kerry and the terrorists.

Bookmarked...

17 posted on 09/01/2004 4:36:07 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)

and.....

"Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice"

18 posted on 09/01/2004 4:37:25 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)

>> a willingness to accept defeat and humiliation rather than compromise principal.

Ahem -- "principle."

22 posted on 09/01/2004 5:12:12 PM PDT by T'wit (If you liked Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose, you'll love Hanoi John Kerry)

To: Marine Inspector; sleavelessinseattle; 2Trievers; swarthyguy; Lazamataz; MistyCA; spetznaz; ...

23 posted on 09/01/2004 5:47:24 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)

To: Everybody; PsyOp

"We must--ourselves--be prepared to undertake military operations against vulnerable Communist regimes. Assume we have developed nuclear weapons that can be used in land warfare, and that we have equipped our European divisions accordingly. Assume also a major uprising in Eastern Europe, such as occurred in Budapest in 1956.

In such a situation, we ought to present the Kremlin with an ultimatum forbidding Soviet intervention, and be prepared, if the ultimatum is rejected, to move a highly mobile task force equipped with appropriate nuclear weapons to the scene of the revolt.

Our objective would be to confront the Soviet Union with superior force in the immediate vicinity of the uprising and to compel a Soviet withdrawal.
An actual clash between American and Soviet allies would be unlikely; the mere threat of American action, coupled with the Kremlin's knowledge that the fighting would occur amid a hostile population and could easily spread to other areas, would probably result in Soviet acceptance of the ultimatum.
The Kremlin would also be put on notice, of course, that resort to long-range bombers and missiles would prompt automatic retaliation in kind.

On this level, we would invite the Communist leaders to choose between total destruction of the Soviet Union, and accepting a local defeat.
Had we the will and the means for it in 1956, such a policy would have saved the Hungarian Revolution."

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This paragraph above brought back memories.

-- I was stationed in Munich in 1956, and Ike had us on full alert, ready [supposedly] to jump into Budapest to protect 'american interests', when he backed down & let the Hungarian Revolution collapse.

I wonder if we could have bluffed the Russians at that point. -- I tend to doubt it.
Anyone here ever read any history about Ikes decision to deny support to Hungary?

34 posted on 09/01/2004 6:47:15 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)

GAD! This really brings back memories. I almost flunked out of high school being the Press Chairman for the Youth For Goldwater...

And that was in Houston and my Dad worked for Brown & Root at the time!

Yet, if my late Father were alive today, he would be a conservative and vote that way.

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35 posted on 09/01/2004 6:48:05 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)

Bump for bookmark and later reading. Also Barry Goldwater was an amateur radio operartor, K7UGA.

46 posted on 09/01/2004 7:31:41 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")

Instead of Goldwater, Americans elected a crooked Texas Democrat with the ethics of a hyena.

No offense to hyenas meant.

47 posted on 09/01/2004 7:33:23 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)

48 posted on 09/01/2004 7:33:54 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words.)

Wow! Thanks for posting this. Time to head over to Amazon.com

55 posted on 09/01/2004 8:26:07 PM PDT by technochick99 (Sanctimonious prig... FREE SABERTOOTH!)

AuH20 bump for later...Consicence of a Conservative was one of the first political books I read as a college student...and one of the ones that opened my eyes...

67 posted on 09/02/2004 2:43:38 AM PDT by Ulysses ("Most of us go through life thinking we're Superman. Superman goes through life being Clark Kent!")

73 posted on 09/02/2004 12:07:15 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)

Bump for Barry...the LAST Libertarian Republican.

77 posted on 10/20/2004 6:34:03 PM PDT by Capitalism2003 (America is too great for small dreams. - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)

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