Posted on 09/01/2004 3:57:31 PM PDT by PsyOp
"I’ve often said that if I hadn’t known Barry Goldwater in 1964 and I had to depend on the press and the cartoons, I’d have voted against the son of a bitch." - Barry Goldwater.
"History has to judge every man who served. I don’t know how they’re going to treat me. I may be the worst S.O.B. that ever came down the pike. But I won’t lose any sleep over it. I just like to be remembered as an honest person who tried." - Barry Goldwater.
Ping!
Many thanks for this. I remember that when I was a teenager, Barry Goldwater was "a voice crying in the wilderness". He will never be forgotten!
He cursed them for fools and threw them out.
"The Day It Became the Longest War", Proceedings of the U.S. Naval Institute, May 1996.
That is so true, but it is an inadequate warning. We need to be warned thatif anyone claims to be wise, they are a propagandist. And thatif anyone claims to be objective, they are claliming to be wise. We need to be warned, IOW, that "objective journalism" is a tendentious fraud. You can't trust anyone to tell you "what is going on." Everyone has the right to their own opinion about that - and everyone is entitled to shout their opinion at the top of their lungs.
Found it.. Thanks, -- you have a good memory.
The Eagle and the Small Birds: Crisis in the Soviet Empire From Yalta To Solidarity.
Michael Charlton.
Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1985, 192 pp. $14.95
Reviewed by John C. Campbell, Foreign Affairs, Spring 1985
The eagle is the U.S.S.R., the small birds the satellite states of Eastern Europe.
Michael Charlton, a commentator for the BBC, interviews a galaxy of former officials and experts who can speak with authority on what happened at Yalta, on the Sovietization of Eastern Europe, and on the crisis of yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Oral history at its best, largely because of Charlton's skillful guidance of the conversations.
Good deal! Glad you found it. Frankly, I'm amazed that I remembered the title correctly. Let me know what you think of the book when you read it. I hope it has the info you want on Ike.
Johnson's mishandling of that war verges on the criminal.
I'm losing hope of getting much more detail. ..
I've done quite a bit of research on that era, and it appears that so much else was going on that Ike was just going thru the motions over Hungary in '56.
Our alert at the airport was just a bit of saber rattling, apparently. Sure seemed real to us at the time though.
Thanks for your info.
Micky Moore is the (fat) embodiment of that statement.
PING!
FYI. Goldwater gives the credit for the origins of this phrase to Professor Harry Jaffa, of the Claremont College in California. "It is the paraphrase of a speech by the Roman Senator, Marcus Tullius Cicero, while speaking in defense of the Rome's rule and honor against the Patrician, Lucius Sergius Catilina, who was considered dangerous to Rome".
The quotation was: "I must remind you - Lords, Senators - that extreme patriotism is in defense of freedom is no crime, and let me respectfully remind you that pusillanimity in the pursuit of justice is no virtue in a Roman".
Ref: "Goldwater" by Barry M. Goldwater, 1988, page 186.
An accomplished poet, philosopher, rhetorician, and humorist, Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BC-43 BC) was also the greatest forensic orator Rome ever produced. But to Cicero, service to the res publica (literally, "the public affair") was a Roman citizen's highest duty. At age 26 (in 80 BC), he successfully defended a man prosecuted unjustly by a crony of the bloodthirsty dictator Sulla. In 69 BC, he brought to order the corrupt Sicilian governor Verres. As consul in 63 BC, he put down the Catilinarian conspiracy; later, he was sent into exile for refusing to join the First Triumvirate. Late in life, he led the Senate's gallant but unsuccessful battle against Antony, for which he paid with his life on 7 December 43 BC.
REF: www.gracie.smsu.edu/cicero.htm
I like to think that Barry Goldwater came from a long line of "Patriotic Conservatives".
Regards and thanks for the postings.
Buck.
BTTT!!!
I think I'll be reading this for a while!! Thanks for posting it!!
BTW I did get some sleep!!
I had heard that about the origin of the phrase as well. I might even have the original in my archive somewhere. I'll have to look. Thanks for the reference.
Bump for Barry...the LAST Libertarian Republican.
Me too...and a cloth campaign banner that's about 4 feet long.
It's too bad that he flipped late in life.
Bing (I was going to just bump this, and then thought you might be interested - I had already bookmarked it on its prior sufacing)
Will read ASAP... looks interesting.
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