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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
"Read the not-Amnesty plan that Bush said he wants for "workers"

Bush's immigration plan offers bait for every currently-anonymous illegal alien to come in from the cold and *register* with the federal government, as well as registering their home, their U.S. employer, and their family. If you've ever been remotely involved with law enforcement, you know two things about registration:

1. It is easier to ban something (such as guns) once it is registered, and
2. It takes fewer LEO resources to track down someone who is known versus someone who is anonymous. In a time when we have over 8 million anonymous illegals, those resources matter.

After registering with the federal government, Bush's plan forces each illegal alien to pay a fine for being here illegally.

One could consider it to be a giant plea bargain.

In return for registering and paying that fine, they get new blue cards. The blue cards allow them to remain in the U.S. for three years, legally, so long as they remain employed, pay taxes, and stay out of any legal trouble.

To get a renewed blue card after 3 years, they have to return to their home countries in order to apply. This sends millions back to their home countries voluntarily, preventing the need to have a forced military round up larger than the one last seen in Europe from 1937 to 1945 (6 million +).

Frankly, I've heard of worse plans. It's a plea bargain, not an amnesty (you don't pay fines for amnesties), and it gets anonymous illegals registered, as well as gives them incentives to finally stay out of trouble with the law.

So this plan doesn't have me flailing my arms over my head while screaming that the sky is falling.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

45 posted on 08/31/2004 4:16:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
So this plan doesn't have me flailing my arms over my head while screaming that the sky is falling.

It's not the sky hack, it the borders. The borders hack.

51 posted on 08/31/2004 4:17:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Southack
After registering with the federal government, Bush's plan forces each illegal alien to pay a fine for being here illegally.

That little fine isn't going to begin to compensate for what all those millions of guest workers would be getting by qualifying for a full American social security check --- for themselves and their families.

53 posted on 08/31/2004 4:18:49 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Southack
You keep using that same post, and I keep laughing every time I see it. Sorry, but giving amnesty to illegal aliens en masse is not part of some brilliant, incredible, super duper secret plan to rid the nation of illegal aliens. Well, it is, but only by making every alien legal. That's what this comes down to - you break the law and we'll give you two things: a small fine, and a benefits package.

Hell with that, time to fix out border security problem.
58 posted on 08/31/2004 4:23:34 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: South40
#45 I found another one. Have I apologized enough for to you when I dared question there were people on FR stupid enough/disingenuous enough to support Bush's Amnesty yet? Holy Cow I can't believe these people. I am convinced that every single one of them is entirely dishonest in this whole debate. The one on here has been posting all these articles like mad, spamming the thread really. Entirely too prepared to be taken as reasonably disagreeing.

Tell me, does this sound familiar?

Frankly, I've heard of worse plans. It's a plea bargain, not an amnesty (you don't pay fines for amnesties), and it gets anonymous illegals registered, as well as gives them incentives to finally stay out of trouble with the law. So this plan doesn't have me flailing my arms over my head while screaming that the sky is falling.

Weren't you just debating the "plea bargain" thing on here the other day? Wasn't the "flailing my arms over my head" line just used the other day too? The Cheap Labor Republican Sellouts are getting so easy to spot because they post Talking Points like a Democrat.

Next thing you'll see is that the border agents are SMEARING the admin.

63 posted on 08/31/2004 4:26:40 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (The (Swift Boat vets for) Truth will set us free.)
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To: Southack
It's a plea bargain, not an amnesty (you don't pay fines for amnesties), and it gets anonymous illegals registered, as well as gives them incentives to finally stay out of trouble with the law.

So, what happens when the illegals don't play along?

87 posted on 08/31/2004 5:15:13 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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