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Soldier says he's liar, not terrorist
The (Spokane) Spokesman Review ^ | 08/31/04 | Richard Roesler

Posted on 08/31/2004 2:53:25 PM PDT by BullDog108

Soldier says he's liar, not terrorist

WSU grad in treason case was just pretending, lawyer says

Richard Roesler
Staff writer
August 31, 2004

FORT LEWIS, Wash. – In the case of Army Spc. Ryan G. Anderson, very few of the players were whom they seemed to be.

The "Muslim militant" who exchanged e-mail with Anderson actually was a small-town Montanan whose hobby is trolling for terrorists online. The "al Qaeda members" Anderson met in a Seattle parking lot turned out to be Army counterintelligence agents.

Now, as the 27-year-old Washington State University graduate battles charges of attempted treason in a cramped Fort Lewis courtroom, his lawyers are saying that he, too, wasn't what he seemed.

Instead of the military expert and Muslim extremist he claimed to be, Anderson's lead attorney said Monday, Anderson is a mentally troubled chronic liar who didn't even have a security clearance. A former supervisor of Anderson's told his lawyers that Anderson "lives in a fantasy world" and attempted suicide when younger.

"He likes to talk. He likes to tell people he knows more than he does," Maj. Joseph Morse told a nine-officer jury as the court-martial began Monday. "He likes to pretend he's something he's not."

If so, Anderson's role-playing has landed him in deep trouble. He's been in a military jail since his arrest in February, and, if convicted, could face life in prison without parole.

"This is a case about betrayal," Army prosecutor Maj. Melvin Jenks told the jury. "Betrayal of our country, betrayal of our army, and betrayal of his fellow soldiers."

According to Army lawyers, witnesses and counterintelligence agents, Anderson sought contact with terrorists through a series of e-mails and cell-phone text messages.

A National Guardsman whose unit was slated to deploy to Iraq in February, Anderson wrote messages saying he was struggling with the prospect of killing brother Muslims, and that he felt he was on the wrong side.

"Soon, very soon, I will have an opportunity to take my own end of the struggle," he wrote on a Web site called Brave Muslims. He included a photo of himself, his face concealed in an Arab head covering. He was holding an AK-47-style rifle and peering out a window.

The photo and message were spotted by Shannen Rossmiller, a municipal court judge in Conrad, Mont. She's a member of 7 Seas, a group of amateur terrorist-hunters.

Rossmiller easily traced down Anderson's real name and the fact that he was in the military. Pretending to be a member of a Muslim extremist group, she wrote Anderson, trying to draw him out to see if he was really a threat. She sent him an e-mail titled "Call to jihad," and offered to help interested Muslims go to a training camp in Pakistan.

Anderson responded.

"Just curious, would there be any chance a brother who might be on the wrong side at present could defect and join up?" he wrote in one e-mail. When she told him she was part of an Islamic intelligence group supporting a holy war against America, he wrote back, "It has been a while that I have been trying to find my way into this sort of thing."

Rossmiller notified the FBI, which contacted Army counterintelligence. After two months of e-mails using several fake identities and e-mail accounts, Anderson wanted to set up a face-to-face meeting. He showed up for the first meeting, at a suburban Barnes and Noble bookstore, wearing a black beret.

The second meeting took place in Seattle, in a government car outfitted with hidden microphones and video cameras. In the video, Anderson eagerly offers technical tips and sketches of how attackers could exploit vulnerabilities of the Army's main battle tank, the M1A1 and M1A2. He pointed out thinner-armored areas, and told the agents how to trigger a tank's fire-extinguishers so the crew would have to escape.When the agents asked Anderson who he thought he was dealing with, he said, "I think you are who the Americans would call al Qaeda."

Three days later, he was arrested and charged with trying to give information about U.S. troop strength, tactics and weapons to al Qaeda.

Anderson's defense hinges on his own e-mailed lies. Among those cited by Morse: Anderson said his mother was Jordanian. He claimed to be able to fly single- and twin-engine aircraft. He claimed he had a brother who'd fought in Chechnya, a girlfriend who'd been killed in a car bombing in South Africa. He said he'd been born in Afghanistan, and South Africa, and that he'd been an African mercenary. He claimed to have a cousin who was an Iraqi policeman.

"It amounts to a guy with an overactive imagination, who starts out in little baby steps with those e-mails," said Morse. "He's prone to embellish."

Morse didn't name Anderson's alleged mental disorder Monday, but cited two Army psychologists who agree with the diagnosis.

The defense lawyer urged the jury to consider Anderson's flowery, over-dramatic language in the e-mails and meetings.

"Oh, how I wish I could deliver the blows myself. But we shall not question His infinite wisdom," he wrote in e-mails. "Forgive my informality. My time is limited … I know how to fight with rifles, pistols and blades … There is nothing sexier than a woman with a rifle … From this point forth, I must say farewell."

"It's overblown, dramatic, over the top," Morse told the jury. "It's hokey, the stuff of cheesy movies and books, the kind of stuff Spc. Anderson likes to watch and read."

Caught up in his own lie, Morse maintains, Anderson walked right into a trap set by the government. Government agents repeatedly initiated contact when Anderson was silent or noncommittal, Morse said. Anderson was as much a dangerous threat, he said, as the "Great and Powerful Oz" – a tiny, scared old man – in the movie "The Wizard of Oz."

"You have to have the courage to open up the curtain and see what's back there, and you're not going to find a big scary monster," Morse said. "He uses smiley faces in his text messages. Is that indicative of somebody that wants to defect and aid the enemy? Or is that indicative of somebody who's role-playing?"


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ryananderson
I searched, and could not believe that no one has posted this yet! What an imbecile! If I were King, he would hang. But he won't get much sympathy in Leavenworth....
1 posted on 08/31/2004 2:53:27 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: BullDog108

Let's see...

Tried to pass on info on how to kill American soldiers to what he thought were enemy agents....

US currently in a war......

What is the penalty for treason in a war? Oh, that's right...

"Execution detail...Ready!...Aim!....FIRE!!!!!"


2 posted on 08/31/2004 2:56:39 PM PDT by hoagy62 (I'm pullin' for ya...we're all in this together.")
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To: Searching4Justice
DumbA$$ Alert!

Some days you just shake your head and wonder what happens to people...

3 posted on 08/31/2004 2:58:42 PM PDT by BossLady (Those who don't serve jury duty are the same ones who don't serve active duty....)
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To: BullDog108
I'm very curious how the defense will try to spin this part:

In the video, Anderson eagerly offers technical tips and sketches of how attackers could exploit vulnerabilities of the Army's main battle tank, the M1A1 and M1A2. He pointed out thinner-armored areas, and told the agents how to trigger a tank's fire-extinguishers so the crew would have to escape.When the agents asked Anderson who he thought he was dealing with, he said, "I think you are who the Americans would call al Qaeda."

Here, he volunteers what one would consider secure data, to people he presumes to be the enemy. Isn't this 'Treason' in and by itself?

4 posted on 08/31/2004 2:59:58 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: BullDog108


I'm not defending this scumbag..

But I do know quite a few people just like him..


I know one guy who if you tell him what's going on in your life, he'll take your story and exaggerate it, and make it his own.

"I'm buying a house."
"Oh yea. Me too, i just got a nice house too."

"I have a daughter."
"Me too"

This guy will lie right through his teeth to you.. It's actually the funniest thing in the world.

He talked about this beautiful girl he was dating, and we ran into him at the video store and asked him where his girlfriend was, and he pointed to some good looking young woman checking out videos.


I don't know what it is.. some sort of disease.


5 posted on 08/31/2004 3:03:15 PM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: BullDog108
"He likes to pretend he's something he's not."

Fine, in 35 years he can run for President.

6 posted on 08/31/2004 3:04:53 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: BullDog108


Hmmm..."a mentally troubled chronic liar"...sounds like the Democrats have a future presidential candidate there.


7 posted on 08/31/2004 3:06:24 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Josh in PA

you know John Kerry?


8 posted on 08/31/2004 3:07:22 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Anderson's defense hinges on his own e-mailed lies. Among those cited by Morse: Anderson said his mother was Jordanian. He claimed to be able to fly single- and twin-engine aircraft. He claimed he had a brother who'd fought in Chechnya, a girlfriend who'd been killed in a car bombing in South Africa. He said he'd been born in Afghanistan, and South Africa, and that he'd been an African mercenary. He claimed to have a cousin who was an Iraqi policeman.

This sounds kinda familiar.

9 posted on 08/31/2004 3:14:37 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: BullDog108
Anderson is a mentally troubled chronic liar

Well, they already said he's a Muslim. How redundant.

10 posted on 08/31/2004 3:15:11 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: BullDog108

I played Everquest with this guy. He was a real nutcase, and I remember when he told me he was getting called up for duty in Iraq, the following conversation ensued:

[paraphrased]

Me: "Stay safe, watch out for terrorists."
Him: "Or freedom fighters, depending on your point of view."
Me: "Huh? WTF?"
Him: "I don't agree with this war, and when it comes right down to it, my loyalty's got to be with those defending their homeland."
Me: "Whatever...Traitor."
Him: "I bet I sleep better at night."

Three weeks later, they announced his arrest. He'd posted his photo on a gaming website, and when the same photo was shown on the news, I just couldn't believe it.

Small world. Too small.


11 posted on 08/31/2004 3:17:22 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: hellinahandcart
This sounds kinda familiar.

Plus he knows every traffic accident victim in Kentucky and never uses the shift key when posting.

12 posted on 08/31/2004 3:19:02 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Josh in PA

We have at least one multi-identitied person who likes to use this forum to pretend to be related in some way to people in news stories.

They get a charge out of pretending, for some reason.

The internet is the most fun compulsive liars have ever had.


13 posted on 08/31/2004 3:19:45 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: BullDog108
While I think we can all agree that this guy is a pathetic looser, it is critical to remember that this is exactly the kind of people AQ is actively recruiting. Remember Johnny Jihad in Afghanistan was a looser but that did not make him any less dangerous.

While is attorney is trying to portray him as stupid and harmless his overt acts betray that. If actual AQ people had got to this guy there’s no telling how much damage he could have done.

Radical Islam and mental illness go hand in hand. What frightens me is the convergence between the Islamic radicals and our own mentally challenged radical leftists in the west. They already hate their country, its not a long walk to attack it.

Ripe recruiting ground for AQ.

14 posted on 08/31/2004 4:22:14 PM PDT by usurper
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To: Heavyrunner

Wow! You should contact the prosecutors with your story. What a stinking POS this traitor is. May his life sentence get cut short...


15 posted on 08/31/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: usurper

I concur. And the same leftist hate-America scum that defends Johnny Jihad will be out howling about this guy now.


16 posted on 08/31/2004 5:25:35 PM PDT by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: Heavyrunner
He was a real nutcase

He's not a nutcase, he's a traitor.

Btw, in the future, if you encounter a similar conversation with someone, notify the FBI immediately. Even if you think it's just some kid mouthing off. As this case proves, you can never be too careful.

17 posted on 09/02/2004 2:53:13 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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