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Ex - Viet Cong Soldier Recalls Swift Boats [amazingly one-sided, even for MSM]
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS via NY Times ^ | August 31, 2004 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 08/31/2004 11:37:18 AM PDT by 68skylark

ON THE BAY HAP RIVER, Vietnam (AP) -- The 50-foot Swift boats were easy targets as they plowed through the waterways of the Mekong Delta in packs of three or four, making big waves and thunderous noise when approaching. Former Viet Cong soldier Duong Hoang Sinh remembers them well -- the one time he tangled with three Swift boats, the Americans killed all of the insurgents in his unit except for two.

``It was very fierce fighting,'' said Sinh, 52, who lost his left eye during the war and still has shrapnel embedded in his arm. ``Each side tried to eliminate the other.''

Sinh and John Kerry, the U.S. Democratic presidential nominee, were fighting along the Dong Cung canal around roughly the same time 35 years ago in early 1969, experiencing the intensity of war along these muddy waters, but from opposite sides.

Although Sinh had never heard of Kerry, he has a strong opinion about the debate surrounding the candidate's Vietnam War record as a U.S. Navy Swift boat commander: Kerry must have had guts to troll the Mekong Delta's spider web of rivers and narrow canals knowing that Viet Cong like himself were waiting to pick him off.

``Kerry served in Vietnam and he was awarded the medal for his bravery,'' Sinh said. ``He deserves the medal.''

The memories of the Swift boat battles in these waters are now being sharply scrutinized under the divisive lens of the U.S. presidential election, where Kerry's actions under fire have been disputed by a group of veterans.

As a Navy lieutenant, Kerry commanded two Swift boat units, PCF-44 and PCF-94, in Vietnam in late 1968 and early 1969. He was awarded three Purple Hearts, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.

Kerry's actions in several of those instances -- including a March 13, 1969 incident when he rescued U.S. Army Special Forces Lt. Jim Rassmann under enemy fire; a February 28, 1969 incident when he chased and killed a Viet Cong fighter; and a December 1968 incident when he was wounded -- have been challenged in a series of television ads aired by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

They claim he did not come under heavy enemy fire as his medal citations state. But other veterans of the ``brown water navy'' who witnessed the fighting, along with Navy documents from that time, have backed Kerry's version of events.

The Associated Press took a boat tour along the same rivers and canals of the Mekong Delta that served as a battleground for Kerry. The people who live here now have worked hard to put the fighting behind them, but the memories persist.

When Kerry and Sinh plied these muddy waterways, mangroves grew thick on both sides of the Bay Hap River, forming a bushy shield of impenetrable green. It was perfect cover for Viet Cong guerillas who laid waiting to ambush the clunky U.S. Swift boats.

Sinh recalled one morning in February 1969 when he and six other insurgents watched silently from their hiding spot in the thick forest that grew along the banks of the Dong Cung canal, about 7.5 kilometers, or 4.7 miles, off the Bay Hap River in Vietnam's southernmost province of Ca Mau.

When the U.S. Navy boats rumbled into view, the Viet Cong were in for a shock as the Americans began firing on them. Sinh recalled his comrade got off one good shot from a B-40 rocket launcher, blasting a hole in the side of one vessel. But it wasn't enough. The Americans charged, unloading a hail of bullets, and Sinh realized this was not a fight his unit could win.

``We got more fire from the American soldiers after that. We tried to fight back, but decided to flee,'' he said.

He believes the Americans must have had intelligence about the planned ambush that day because the three U.S. boats fired first. Five of his comrades died, including his buddy who fired the crippling blast. Sinh escaped by fleeing into the dense forest.

He said it was the first and last time he fired at Swift boats along the waterways where he grew up. Not long after, he was sent away from his family in Dong Cung village to fight elsewhere, which is why he remembers the date so well. His village was renamed Tran Thoi after the war. To Sinh and those who still live along the Mekong Delta, the controversy over Kerry's tour of duty in Vietnam is dumbfounding. Since the war ended in 1975, they have reveled in peace and more recently, economic growth.

``I think it's American politics,'' said Nguyen Van Khoai, 61, a former Viet Cong soldier who attacked American troops along the water but never fought directly against the Swift boats. ``On any side, a soldier who made an outstanding feat is given a medal -- but maybe some people try to think otherwise.''

The area that once crawled with Viet Cong has changed. The thick mangrove forests that lined both sides of the Bay Hap River, Dong Cung canal and other tributaries are mostly gone. Some canals just wide enough for the U.S. Navy boats to pass through are double in size today.

Many more thatch houses are perched on stilts along the water's edge and small speed boats now zoom past. Shrimp farms litter the landscape where forests once grew, and the names of many wartime canals and villages have been changed.

Cai Nuoc village where Kerry put in on March 13, 1969 -- the day for which he was awarded his third Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for rescuing Rassmann -- has ballooned into a district. Cafes abound along the water here as well as shops selling a wide variety of wares, including shiny bathroom tile. A thriving floating market also bustles where mounds of ripe rambutan, pomelo and bananas form a rainbow of color.

But much also remains the same. The water is still dotted with children splashing and men checking fishing nets attached to crude sticks poking out of the river. The smell of diesel fuel and smoke is in the air and stinging downpours still come in the afternoon.

Many of the residents here in the Mekong Delta have never heard of Kerry. They do, however, remember the Swift boats and the Americans who roared by aboard them.

``I was very scared when I heard the American boats coming up the canal, so I had to hide in my back yard,'' said Phu Thi Nguyet, 60, who has lived along the Dong Cung canal since 1960.

For those who have followed the debate, the Kerry controversy is confusing.

``It's very strange in a way. It's just a small thing, but they have made it into a big deal,'' said Lam The Hung, 42, a native of Cai Nuoc village who now serves as a provincial official in Ca Mau. ``The fact that one soldier rescued another -- that happened thousands of times among the Vietnamese, so I don't understand.''

Hung said he's also puzzled by the uproar over Kerry's decision to join the anti-war movement upon returning home. He said Kerry's actions proved he learned a lot during his time in Vietnam and that he wanted to keep other Americans from dying here.

``When they went home, they knew the nature of the war and the people here were innocent and they knew it was nonsense to wage war here,'' said Hung, whose two older brothers joined the Viet Cong and laid mines in the rivers where the Swift boats operated.

And while Kerry may be worried about veterans' support in America, Sinh said he would vote any day for his former enemy over President Bush. In the veteran's opinion, Kerry's experience along these rivers fighting Viet Cong might keep him from sending other young Americans to invade countries.

``He knew the suffering and how much misery it brought to the people of Vietnam -- he knew the cruelty of war,'' Sinh said. ``So, I don't think he would go to war again if he's elected.''


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; election2004; endorsement; kerry; kerrycampaign; mediakerrysuckup; militaryrecord; sbv; vietcong; vietcongendorsement; vietcongforkerry; vietnam
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To: ArmyBratproud

"``Kerry served in Vietnam and he was awarded the medal for his bravery,'' Sinh said. ``He deserves the medal.'' "

I'll make your point B) again. He wasn't on the boat. How would he know if Kerry deserved a medal.


61 posted on 08/31/2004 12:30:01 PM PDT by ironman
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To: 68skylark
Does the sKerry campaign actually hope that a ringing endorsment from the VC is going to help?
Those people are insane!
62 posted on 08/31/2004 12:31:35 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: 68skylark

This story wasn't done by just the AP/NYT today.... NPR had a nice little 5 or 6 minute segment on this story this morning, too. Looks like all the lefty news outlets are in collusion here.

The audio interviews were chock full of rousing praise for Kerry from ex-Viet Cong guerillas and the like.

Yeah, I know... you're shocked, right?


63 posted on 08/31/2004 12:34:11 PM PDT by Legion
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To: 68skylark

The real truth is that Viet Nam has been at starvation levels until about 10 years ago. It was only then that they produced more than they consumed and could export rice, nuts and other products. To give you an idea there are no animals in the Zoo, they all got eaten.


64 posted on 08/31/2004 12:34:29 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: 68skylark
Since Kerry is about to "shake up" his campaign....

What would be better than to fly this VC in to join Rassman and the other "Vets for Kerry" on the campaign trail -- better yet, go find him immediately, and take him along and let him warm up the American Legion crowd for Kerry tomorrow!

Yeah, that's the ticket!

65 posted on 08/31/2004 12:35:36 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: js1138; 68skylark
Notice how the author says that once we pulled out, Vietnam has been a place of peace and growth?

After 1975 and for the next 10 years, Vietnam was a communist prison camp, a tropical Gulag according to my wife who grew up there.

There's a whole catalog of horror stories: midnight house searches; land appropriations (my MIL lost 200 hectares of farmland); rice rationing (in Vietnam!?!?!); abductions (my FIL stayed in a monastery for nearly 10 years to avoid "reeducation"); etc.

The country was going straight down the toilet until 1989, when "do moi" capitalism was introduced.

The Hanoi Stalinsts and their supporters in the South are, fortunately, very susceptible to the charms of the U.S. dollar, so I have ongoing hope that capitalism will eventually prevail.

66 posted on 08/31/2004 12:35:52 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Exton1
The real truth is that Viet Nam has been at starvation levels until about 10 years ago. It was only then that they produced more than they consumed and could export rice, nuts and other products. To give you an idea there are no animals in the Zoo, they all got eaten.

The truth about what happened after our pullout is horrible. Those "anti-war" protesters have blood on their hands. That's the dark side of their movement that the mainstream media will never touch.

67 posted on 08/31/2004 12:38:14 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: piasa
If anyone wants the website, it is available --- vietcongforkerry.com. It is reasonably priced at godaddy.com.
68 posted on 08/31/2004 12:39:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: 68skylark

Man, the Slimes/AP must have dug deep to find this guy. Has all the credibility asKerry's accounts of his PH's.


69 posted on 08/31/2004 12:40:44 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: angkor

"...so I have ongoing hope that capitalism will eventually prevail."


Along with capitalism hopefully more freedoms will follow. My old pastor is involved with the underground Christian church in Vietnam. State "Christian" churches are allowed to a certain degree. Bibles are not allowed though as she smuggles some in each trip. Christian leaders are arrested if they don't toe the line - so I imagine not all of the "re-education facilities" have closed their doors.


70 posted on 08/31/2004 12:42:02 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: 68skylark

If one wanted to spoof the MSM and Kerry, it would be difficult to top this.


71 posted on 08/31/2004 12:43:16 PM PDT by Capt. Jake (Tarheels against Edwards)
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To: angkor

I view political systems as primarily run by representitives, totalitatians or gangsters. Gangsters are highly preferable to totalitarians. If Vietnam is shifting from totalitarianism to gangsterism, it's a plus.


72 posted on 08/31/2004 12:43:55 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Exton1
Funny how they could not find one the Vietnamese that have fled to the USA and ask them their views on the war.

This morning someone posted the first article I've ever seen that accounts for the opinions of Vietnamese refugees. But it was in The Australian, and talked about Vietnamese-Australian attitudes (which to no surprise are anti-Kerry).

Yes, it's truly astonishing that the NYT can't muster one of the 1.2 million Vietnamese-American refugess (most now U.S. citizens) to speak on the record about Vietnam.

Perhaps that's because V-As consider Kerry to be a "phan boi" traitor.

73 posted on 08/31/2004 12:44:57 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Shermy

Kerry called some of the SBVs to try to talk them out of coming out against him. What makes anyone think he would not also call at least one his VC allies to back him up?


74 posted on 08/31/2004 12:45:36 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

To me this article says that the Main Stream non Press would rather believe a former VC than US Veterans. Shame, Shame, Shame.


75 posted on 08/31/2004 12:48:34 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: 68skylark

"Easy targets" I thought 4 or 5 50' swift boats could remain stationary in a 75 yard wide river for over an hour under constant fire and not sustain any damage.


76 posted on 08/31/2004 12:48:39 PM PDT by NavVet (“Bendeict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Exton1
To give you an idea there are no animals in the Zoo, they all got eaten.

Let's be factual. There are animals in the zoos.

But there is still a lot of poverty in VN.

77 posted on 08/31/2004 12:48:55 PM PDT by angkor
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To: mystery-ak

Now wait a second the flying dog and the VC soldier were never seen together- maybe they were one and the same.


78 posted on 08/31/2004 12:51:16 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: geopyg
so I imagine not all of the "re-education facilities" have closed their doors.

No, they have not. Check:

http://www.pttndt.org

It documents the plight of Prof. Nguyen Huy, a democracy advocate now serving a 15 year sentence.

He's the father of my wife's best friend, who fortunately was spirited out of Vietnam 10 years ago.

Her younger brother, Dr. Nguyen's son, is an attorney who has been blacklisted from that profession by the Ho Chi Minh City Communist Party.

That's the way the commies work: they start with the alleged offender and work all the way down the family tree.

79 posted on 08/31/2004 12:56:12 PM PDT by angkor
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To: js1138
If Vietnam is shifting from totalitarianism to gangsterism, it's a plus.

"Greed is good" in more ways than one.

We're on the same wavelength.

80 posted on 08/31/2004 12:58:56 PM PDT by angkor
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