Nov. 13, 2001 Air Crash over New York Was Work of Al Qaeda Suicide, Says Canadian Intelligence

Debka File ^ | August 30, 2004

[Blood of Tyrants]

Posted last week. It is highly doubtful that it was terrorism.

[Sub-Driver]

not breaking news.........do a search on the topic...

[Clara Lou]

Debka... Dick Morris.. Debka... Dick Morris-- wrong more often than they're right.

[wagglebee]

A captured al-Qaeda operative, Mohammed Mansour Jabarah, told Canadian intelligence investigators that a Montreal man who trained in Afghanistan alongside the 9/11 hijackers was responsible, using a small shoe bomb similar to the one used by convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid for his “suicide mission.” He named Abderraouf Jdey, a Canadian citizen known also as “Farouk the Tunisian.”

The Canadians captured him when and where?

And they are just now telling us because?

Sounds rather suspicious to me.

[JOAT]

Asked for a comment, US National Transportation Safety Board spokesman, Ted Lopatkiewicz, still insisted there was no evidence of anything other than an accident (in the plane crash over Queens.) It appears, at least the evidence we have, is that a vertical fin came off, not that there was any kind of event in the cabin.”

Vertical 'fins' don't 'come off.' They are integral to the construction of the aircraft fuselage. Anyone who familiar with aircraft can attest to this. Why our government is so intent on covering up true terror is a mystery.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Why do you think we call them Scarebus?

[Afronaut]

I remember the eye witnesses. They were very credible folks who were silenced.

[VeritatisSplendor]

If it was a suicide bomber, they picked this particular flight.

Why would al Qaeda want to off a bunch of Dominicans?

They could go for the bicoastals. The Bos-Wash bigwigs. But mostly poor people taking small appliances back to the Dominican Republic?

Mrs VS

[CWOJackson]

"...Says Canadian Intelligence"

I've no more convincing argument for catastrophic structural failure.

[Strategerist]

Ummm...

Airliners have had their fuselages spontaneously fall apart in the air before, much less a vertical stabilzer.

[genefromjersey]

Yeah. Gee,what technology !!
He managed to clip the tail right off the plane without leaving any explosive residue.
Ummp-ummp !
Them al-kitey boys gettin' right smart !

[The Westerner]

Daniel Pipes has published an article on this very report on his website. Very convincing. The pilots were reacting to an event rather than oversteering and causing rudders to break apart.

[JOAT]

If it was a suicide bomber, they picked this particular flight.
Why would al Qaeda want to off a bunch of Dominicans?
They could go for the bicoastals. The Bos-Wash bigwigs. But mostly poor people taking small appliances back to the Dominican Republic?

If I remember correctly, this was shortly after commercial air traffic resumed.

The simple act of ANY plane going down for reasons of terror would have probably bankrupted all the airlines.

That is the only plausible explantion for coverup that makes sense.

As far as the victims, why would terrorists care? WHO dies is far less important than breeding fear.

[Boundless]

In addition to the normal Debka caveats,
the leading dissident blogger on this event:
http://www.usread.com/
has not signed up for this theory.

He does make a case that the investigation had
massive problems, and may have rendered it
impossible for us to ever know.

[Burr5]

It is not "highly doubtful" that it was terrorism at all. I'm the guy who posted the article last week, BTW.

It is NOT from the DEBKA file. It is from the National Journal, a Canadian newspaper.

The only factually supported "refutation" of my "shoe-bomber" theory came from a web-site which demonstrated the likelihood of pre-flight sabotage. It is VERY convincing, though it does not compel me to abandon the idea that it could have been a bomb-too many irrational, unsupported assertions going around on this forum pretending to be "facts" for my comfort.

I have not pretended to be an airline crash investigator. I assure you the nay-sayers are not either.

I merely insist that foul play was involved. The ridiculous initial official excuse is a factor. So is the proximity of the event to Ground Zero. As is its chronological proximity. As is the fact that an Al-Qaeda operative is ADMITTING it now.

Live in ignorance at your own peril, nay-sayers.

[JOAT]

Airliners have had their fuselages spontaneously fall apart in the air before, much less a vertical stabilzer.

If you are referring to the infamous flight where the top of the fuselage sheered away and sucked out the stewardess, that aircraft still retained its vertical stabilizer. (AKA 'fin')

The point is, even if whole aircraft have catastrophically disintegrated before, the component in question is part of the basis of the aircraft. It is not a bolt-on part that can 'fall off.'

For the vertical stabilizer to come off the aircraft (and be recovered later with no blatantly obvious external damage) is remarkable. It is nearly without precedent.

[Phsstpok]

Canadian Intelligence

OK, there's the first clue right there that this is pure Barbara Streisand. ;^>

(Donning flame retardant great white north long johns)

[AZLiberty]

Were there any unclaimed bodies? Has DNA analysis been done on them?

[fhlh]

Canadian Intelligence .... BWAHAHAHAHA Somehow, those two words look funny next to one another :)