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Don't attack. I want silversky to come back and give his definition of Moderate Islam.

I honestly want to know if there is one.

He brought up a good point with Turkey.

Please, let this be an intellectual debate rather than an attack.

I'm gone. Anyone who, with a straight face, claims that Iran "doesn't support or fund terrorists" isn't worth debating.

I want silversky to come back and give his definition of Moderate Islam

The simple answer first: There were only three countries that supported the Talliban before 9/11. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and UAE. These are the Radical Islamists, the Wahhabi countries. Curiously, they were and still are "friends". With friends like this...

Now the long answer: Moderates are those Muslims who are content to live their life under God and don't seek expansion through violence. Conversely, Radicals want to change the world according to their own understanding of Islam. This is done with violence and generally is a payback for past injustice - in this case WW1. Yeap, the story goes back to WW1 and the destruction of the Caliphate in 1924. Curiously, Shiites (Iran) are happy with their Imam and are not mad about WW1. For them the world is in a legitimate state as it is now. Not so about the Wahhabis. They think that without the Caliphate the world is illegitimate. They blame the West for that "injustice" done to them in WW1. They scream "revenge". They need to take over the world now because they can't trust anybody anymore. Here is what OBL says
Osama bina Laden is a Sunni Muslim. To him the end of the reign of the caliphs in the 1920s was catastrophic, as he made clear in a videotape made after 9-11. On the tape, broadcast by Al-Jazeera on October 7, 2001, he proclaimed: "What America is tasting now is only a copy of what we have tasted. ... Our Islamic nation has been tasting the same for more [than] eighty years, of humiliation and disgrace, its sons killed and their blood spilled, its sanctities desecrated."

Hey, looks like Primasheet can be fashioned into tampon bombs, too.

It worked in Russia, I fairly expect it to work here.

Damn.