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TORY leader Michael Howard has been barred from the White House
The SUN ^ | 08/27/04 | TREVOR KAVANAGH

Posted on 08/27/2004 7:49:05 PM PDT by Pikamax

Bush: Stay away Howard By TREVOR KAVANAGH Political Editor

TORY leader Michael Howard has been barred from the White House and told he will never meet President George Bush, it emerged last night.

The bombshell ban was slapped on Mr Howard after he called for Tony Blair to quit over the Iraq War.

And it was reinforced last month when he said he would have vetoed military action if he had known the full facts about Iraq’s WMD arsenal.

Last night, a spokesman for Mr Howard did not even try to deny the Tory leader had been banned from meeting the President.

He said: “I don’t want to comment on that.”

The wrath of the President was transmitted to Mr Howard’s office in a furious phone call from White House political chief Karl Rove in February.

It followed Mr Howard’s call for Mr Blair to step down as PM.

What particularly upset the White House was Mr Howard’s comment: “If I were Prime Minister I would seriously be considering my position.”

They were also angered when the Tory leader accused the PM of “serious dereliction of duty”.

Mr Rove, who speaks with the President’s full authority, said: “You can forget about meeting the President full stop. Don’t bother coming, you are not meeting him.”

The conversation was relayed to Mr Howard who was unmoved.

Far from backing down, a defiant Mr Howard stepped up his attack over the so-called “dodgy dossier” and the 45-minute warning of attack by Iraqi WMD.

Referring to Tory support for the Commons vote which led to war, he said: “If I knew then what I know now, I could not have voted for the resolution.”

His comment to the Sunday Times was widely seen as an unforced error.

But it now emerges that Mr Howard was accurately reflecting his criticism not just of Mr Blair but of Mr Bush as well.

His stand shook top Tories, including party chairman Liam Fox who is flying to New York in a bid to patch up the rift at the Republican convention.

Anger ... President Bush

And it has deeply damaged the decades-long alliance between the Republicans and the Conservative Party.

Senior US Right-wingers blame Mr Howard for undermining the coalition in Iraq and say they are privately rooting for a Labour victory in the next election.

A Tory source said: “They see Tony Blair as a true ally against terror and the Tories as a bunch of w*****s.”

The stand-off is particularly surprising in view of Mr Howard’s long standing admiration for America.

He set up the Atlantic Partnership, a think-tank which welcomes regular visits from Republican figures.

Senior Tories are amazed that the White House fury has remained a secret for so long.

One said: “I am astonished it hasn’t come out before.”

But Mr Howard’s spokesman insisted he had not been barred from the Republican Convention.

He added: “He never intended to attend the convention.”

The revelations could not have come at a worse time for the Tories.

A new poll showed them still scoring only 34 per cent, the same as Labour, with little prospect of a breakthrough.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: michaelhoward; tonyblair; tory
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To: Pikamax
A new poll showed them still scoring only 34 per cent, the same as Labour, with little prospect of a breakthrough.

So, their election is shaping up to be really really close like ours. I do think GWB will pull away from sKerry sometime before the election and win a clear victory, however.

21 posted on 08/27/2004 8:49:19 PM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Sorry, Mr. Kerry....In the parlance popularized by your wife, you can just "shove it.")
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To: MadIvan

Comment??


22 posted on 08/27/2004 8:51:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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Actually I believe this story is true. Howard is acting like a Democratic opportunist, and Bush of ALL things he is, is LOYAL and means what he says. Blair has backed him to the hilt, and remained loyal, and W would die rather than support a weasel like Howard in an attempt to impeach Blair. Hooray that we have a President who means what he says.


23 posted on 08/27/2004 8:57:08 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Pikamax

No way would Karl Rove have made a phone call like this. It would have been Powell or Rice. With that said, I have no doubt about the feelings that President Bush has regarding Howard.


24 posted on 08/27/2004 9:02:10 PM PDT by Wait4Truth ("There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat!" - GWB)
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To: Pikamax

Thanks for posting this


25 posted on 08/27/2004 9:03:37 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({ news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Pikamax

More evidence that leftists have infiltrated all levels of the conservative movement.


26 posted on 08/27/2004 9:08:46 PM PDT by John Lenin (I love the smell of Napalm in the morning)
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To: Pikamax
The wrath of the President was transmitted to Mr Howard’s office in a furious phone call from White House political chief Karl Rove in February.

He wishes.

27 posted on 08/27/2004 9:28:00 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Pikamax
...and the Tories as a bunch of w*****s.”

It's true. They are wankers.

28 posted on 08/27/2004 9:34:00 PM PDT by Bonaparte (the lyric said forevermore, forevermore's a memory...)
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To: Irenius
Is this her?

Looks a bit like Katherine Ross.

30 posted on 08/27/2004 10:06:42 PM PDT by Bonaparte (the lyric said forevermore, forevermore's a memory...)
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To: Pikamax

When the Tories start being conservatives again, they will get a better reception


31 posted on 08/27/2004 10:09:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: SevenofNine

The Tories have been bashing Bush for months and months.


32 posted on 08/27/2004 10:09:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: MJY1288; MadIvan

Thats the reaction the Tories would get from me after what they have been saying over the past several months to a year. Why do you think madIvan joined the UKIP??


33 posted on 08/27/2004 10:10:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: SunkenCiv

I expect the Tories will gain a few percentages... but then again they might lose a few to the UKIP.


34 posted on 08/27/2004 10:12:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL
Yea, but this crap that Karl Rove called Mr Howard is a joke. Karl Rove does not have the influence over GWB the left thinks he has. I have read every book written about this White House and Karl Rove is hardly mentioned. As I said before, George W. Bush would fire Karl Rove if he ever said such a thing to a foreign dignitary, no matter what his public statements were.

IMHO this article isn't worthy of lining a Ferret cage

35 posted on 08/27/2004 10:18:23 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: Pikamax

"And it has deeply damaged the decades-long alliance between the Republicans and the Conservative Party."

Wishful thinking on the part of the Sun.


36 posted on 08/27/2004 10:18:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Pikamax

This is bull. A furious Karl Rove? I don't think so.


37 posted on 08/27/2004 10:23:23 PM PDT by auboy (MSM's creed: see no truth, hear no truth, speak no truth.)
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To: skeeter

The Tories under Iain Duncan Smith supported the war.
The Tory party then turfed out IDS, and put in Michael Howard (who is pathetic)

I wouldn't be at ALL suprised if this is true.
And Howard would deserve the chiding.


38 posted on 08/27/2004 10:27:38 PM PDT by Happygal (Liberals - fully au fait with their 'rights', utterly ignorant of their responsibilities)
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To: MJY1288

No way Karl Rove made the call, and I think Howard was embellishing the conversation a bit too.


39 posted on 08/27/2004 10:31:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL; All

Really?

I hear bits and pieces I do live in the US on Sunday UK papers

MAN no wonder Dubya is angry I be so too that is sad what happen to the party that produce Maggie Thatcher


40 posted on 08/27/2004 10:46:06 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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