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To: Cableguy
The question is: are we going to far with this attack on Kerry?

WE don't have any control over this. All we can do is stand on the sidelines and cheer. This is between the Vietnam vets and Kerry. This fight has been a long time coming.

Caddell said it was bad to bring this back up. I don't agree. There are unheale wounds and the reason they remain unhealed is because the vets were forced to stuff all this inside and not talk about it. Time to let all the poison out.

16 posted on 08/27/2004 6:43:15 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999

Hey, I completely agree - these vets finally deserve to be heard.


35 posted on 08/27/2004 6:58:44 PM PDT by gs-conserv
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To: McGavin999

I was amazed at Pat's logic in this topic - hadn't seen him in awhile but was pleased that he could see the idiocy of Kerry making Vietnam the center of his campaign. Don't agree with his "we all did something we regret" during that war. ALL seemed like a strange word to use. I don't know the % of those protesting but I believe the majority of us were working daily, paying bills, raising families and watching the news when we got home from work.

I lived in Sacramento at the time and watched Governor Ronald Reagan take on the scum that were screaming their heads off on the college campuses. We haven't gotten rid of THAT generation and here we are raising another like it! Gads! Do we have hope?


59 posted on 08/27/2004 7:09:50 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: McGavin999
WE don't have any control over this...... This is between the Vietnam vets and Kerry. This fight has been a long time coming.

. There are unhealed wounds.... the reason they remain unhealed is because the vets were forced to stuff all this inside and not talk about it.

Time to let all the poison out.

I apologise for editing your post. It was a strong statement. I wanted to clarify it for all to hear. FP

67 posted on 08/27/2004 7:12:38 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I Just fell off the boat!! Kerry I need you! Uh..nevermind, it's only hip deep...right now.)
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To: McGavin999
Actually, we can do better than cheer. We can quietly and rationally point out to anyone who will listen that the anti-Kerry vets have an understandable antipathy toward him based on his libelous 'testimony' before Congress in 1971, and that that 'testimony' was the beginning of Kerry's consistent stance on defense matters ever since: just as he weakened America by giving the NV and VC a propaganda victory with his lies, so at every turn from then until the end of the Cold War his every policy prescription, near abolition of the CIA, subjecting American force projection to UN approval, advocated in his first Congressional campaign; his opposition to every phase of Reagan's defense build up which brought an end to the Cold War; his coziness with the Nicaraguan communists all weakened America and gave comfort, if not actual aid, to our enemies.

And, we can quote Kerry: he says he will lead in the War on Terror with 'the lessons he learned in Vietnam'. We can point out that this is precisely why he must not be elected President. Those lessons, evinced in his little discussed public life after returning from Vietnam are evidently to calumnate American troops when they are in the field, cut defense spending and weapons systems, cut intelligence capacity, and blithely offer our enemies diplomatic embrace as if doing so might make them into friends.

And when we say this, we probably should not be cheering for the Swifties openly, even though we thank them in our hearts, and perhaps gloat inwardly at their effectiveness: sticking to policy and Kerry's public record, thereby piling our critique on other matters on top of the Swifties' attack, will win more undecideds and (always a good bonus) annoy the left and keep it unhappy (as Buckley used to say).

81 posted on 08/27/2004 7:21:27 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: McGavin999
McGowan999, you said it so succinctly and truthfully.

I remember my many friends in high school who went to VN as fun loving, happy, young men and women anxious to serve their country. Those who survived came back to a country which disdained them and disavowed their sacrifices. They were emotionally and physically devastated, not by the enemies with whom they battled, but by their own countrymen. My friends who made the ultimate sacrifice, and did not return home, have never, to this day, been honored properly by Kerry and his ilk. Rather, they have been used for Kerry's political pandering and gain, as all the while he desecrated their memory.

How dare he profess to be a qualified, let alone deserving, leader for America. I truly never thought I could despise anyone as much as I do the Billary duo, but I do believe Kerry is as vile as they.
94 posted on 08/27/2004 7:28:47 PM PDT by LakeLady ("I'm voting Republican. That dumbocrat left a bad taste in my mouth." - Monica Lewinsky)
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To: McGavin999

He said it was bad for Kerry !

I hope so!!


187 posted on 08/27/2004 8:23:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: McGavin999

Kadell is wrong on THAT one. This was a long time coming.


247 posted on 08/27/2004 9:22:24 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Arlen Specter in November.....)
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To: McGavin999; All

I totally agree. When the Dem primary voters picked Kerry to get the nomination, the Dem base decided they wanted to refight Vietnam-- and with the "AWOL" charges and the uncritical coverage of Kerry's peacock dance at the convention, they were winning. Now the battle has been joined and they have gotten routed. They brought this all upon themselves.


284 posted on 08/27/2004 10:02:37 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: McGavin999

I agree, it's time to lance the boil. This wound has been festering for far too long. Young Americans need to get the education that our schools refuse to provide.


359 posted on 08/28/2004 6:17:13 AM PDT by WHBates
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