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Driver's Licenses for Illegal Aliens Bill PASSES Again (California State Senate)
The John and Ken Show (KFI 64.0 am, Los Angeles) | truthkeeper

Posted on 08/27/2004 5:34:34 PM PDT by truthkeeper

Well guys, "One Bill Gil" Cedillo snuck this monstrosity in as an attachment to some bill the state senate just HAD to pass. (The official story, anyway.) John and Ken just announced that it passed 21 - 14 moments ago, despite an impassioned, intelligent plea against it by Tom McClintock. The bill now moves on the entire assembly, where it is also expected to pass.

So it looks like Arnold will have a bill to either sign or veto after all.

Once more into the breach.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab2895; aliens; driverslicense; driverslicenses; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; insanity; sb1160
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To: ElkGroveDan

Crossovers were:

Canciamilla, Matthews, Wolk

Any three-termers there?


101 posted on 08/27/2004 10:14:24 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: truthkeeper

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-445-4633

To send an Electronic Mail please visit:
http://www.govmail.ca.gov


103 posted on 08/27/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by brightx
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To: FairOpinion
Does the CA governor have line item veto?

You have been told he does many times.

104 posted on 08/27/2004 10:47:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: truthkeeper
Once more into the breach.

And when Ahnold is no longer governor, armed with their newly minted California driver's licenses, these usurpers will be voting for Democrats all over the country.

105 posted on 08/27/2004 10:49:59 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: RS
Once again Tom proves his effectivness ...

Were Tom governor we wouldn't have any concerns about this bill.

106 posted on 08/27/2004 10:51:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: blahdeblah
If that Bustamante bastard signs this into law while Arnold is at the convention, It's WAR.

Good catch.

107 posted on 08/27/2004 11:00:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We're here to pay the bills and be told that we're not intelligent enough to comprehend the big picture.

What "they" loose sight of while 'they' are comprehending the BIG PICTURE is that one of the bills that must be payed is the price of freedom.  Without the promise of freedom the ones that actually produce will simply buy it back. And freedom is not bought with dollars, bonds, T-bills, Pounds, AUD, Marks, Gulden, Kronur, Franken or any other "script."

The price of freedom is blood, thats the price the libs and commie elites are not willing to pay themselves and that is why they will ultimately loose.  They will loose because they will tend to prevail until WE are willing to pay the price and buy back our freedom.  They will become so used to getting their way through whining and pee-cee that they will eventually create an intolerable situation and the freedom thirsty Americans will cut loose and TAKE back their freedom.

The only real question here is . . . when?

108 posted on 08/27/2004 11:17:02 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: truthkeeper

Let it be known that these are some of the people who voted yes.

Patty Berg
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=1&assoc=1

Patricia Wiggins
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=7&assoc=7

Darrell Steinberg
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=9&assoc=9

Leland Yee
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=12&assoc=12

Mark Leno
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=13&assoc=13

Loni Hancock
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=14&assoc=14

Wilma Chan
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=16&assoc=16

Ellen M. Corbett
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=18&assoc=18

Gene Mullin
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=19&assoc=19

John A. Dutra
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=20&assoc=20

S. Joseph Simitian
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=21&assoc=21

Sally J. Lieber
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=22&assoc=22

Manny Diaz
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=23&assoc=23

Rebecca Cohn
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=24&assoc=24

John Laird
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=27&assoc=27

Simon Salinas
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=28&assoc=28

Nicole Parra
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=30&assoc=30

Sarah Reyes
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=31&assoc=31

Hannah-Beth Jackson
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=35&assoc=35

Cindy Montanez
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=39&assoc=39

Lloyd E. Levine
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=40&assoc=40

Paul Koretz
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=42&assoc=42

Dario Frommer
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=43&assoc=43

Carol Liu
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=44&assoc=44

Jackie Goldberg
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=45&assoc=45

Herb J. Wesson , Jr.
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=47&assoc=47

Mark Ridley-Thomas
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=48&assoc=48

Judy Chu
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=49&assoc=49

Marco Antonio Firebaugh
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=50&assoc=50

Jerome Horton
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=51&assoc=51

Mervyn M. Dymally
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=52&assoc=52

George Nakano
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/makebio.asp?district=53&assoc=53


109 posted on 08/27/2004 11:46:53 PM PDT by seastay
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To: TLI

If only...

The masses are snoring way too loud.


110 posted on 08/28/2004 12:09:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
It's hard to sleep when you are hungry and you are getting kicked out of your house you have made payments on for 18 years . . . . . on a 20 year loan.

Expect to see a lot of that as the "Global economy" IE, wealth transfer continues.

111 posted on 08/28/2004 12:22:10 AM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Folks, this bill has little or nothing to do with driving. You are not going to see a rush of aliens heading to driving school or buying insurance.

Cedillo still insists there can be no distinguishing mark on the license indicating illegal status. Also, all it takes to get one is a damn Matriculas Consulares -- and even the Mexican government doesn't accept them as legit ID.

This is about putting what passes as our defacto national ID into the hands of illegal aliens so they can hide in plain sight.

Once the DMV document is in hand they also have proof that they can vote and there is the real danger.

Fortunately AZ new DMV Law has kicked in and to get an AZ license you must show birth, residency and citizenship identification such as passport; for those coming from any state that issues licenses to ILLEGALS. CA though they are such a state yet was on the list cause we just knew the liberals would keep pushing.

112 posted on 08/28/2004 7:22:39 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: RS

In any event, all of this side conversation ignores the real problem, which is that you were mistaken when you said that Virginia gives licenses to illegals.

You obviously have been trying to argue that you weren't mistaken and that Virginia still does licenses to illegals, because an illegal can forge ID documents, but let me ask you, how do OTHER states (those which, in your mind, don't give licenses to illegals) deal with the problem.....????????


113 posted on 08/28/2004 7:23:24 AM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: brianl703

"In any event, all of this side conversation ignores the real problem, which is that you were mistaken when you said that Virginia gives licenses to illegals."

My God... you mean their aren't any WMD's ? So you guys have taken steps to fix the problem since I last looked.

Are there illegals driving around Virginia NOW with legal drivers licenses ?

Now of course, none of those illegals would consider moving to another state and using the VA license to obtain one from say, Cal-e-fornia ? No they would not have thought of that...


114 posted on 08/28/2004 7:37:13 AM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: Carry_Okie

"Were Tom governor we wouldn't have any concerns about this bill."

Pray tell, what would Tom do to stop Cedillo ?


115 posted on 08/28/2004 8:07:57 AM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: .38sw

Torlakson's name is not here because he is a Senator. For what it's worth, he voted for it in the Senate.


116 posted on 08/28/2004 8:08:52 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I thought that you'd posted the senate votes. I didn't look closely enough. I see that the lovely Loni Hancock, my assembly member, voted for it. What a surprise. And I'm not surprisesd that Torlakson voted for it either. I've called his office before about the license issue, and apparently his office had been getting threatening phone calls, and the staffer took it out on me, although I was polite. I'm not even sure if Torlakson is up for reelection this fall. If he is, I also don't think he has an opponent. Loni Hancock has an opponent, but I've not seen any ads, or anything about the person, don't even know who it is. I think we're just screwed here in CoCo county.


117 posted on 08/28/2004 8:14:55 AM PDT by .38sw
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To: ElkGroveDan
I was shocked to see that Lowenthal voted yes. I contacted his office to tell him that he certainly doesn't represent the people of his district, and that we'll not be voting for him again.

Alan.Lowenthal@assembly.ca.gov

118 posted on 08/28/2004 10:03:21 AM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN HEAVEN)
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To: janetgreen
and that we'll not be voting for him again.

you mean you've actually voted for Lowenthal before???

120 posted on 08/28/2004 11:26:50 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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