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Questioning A Vet's Service[Kerry questioned Boorda's leadership over issue of medals: "Very wrong"]
Slings and Arrows ^ | August 27, 2004

Posted on 08/27/2004 5:25:15 PM PDT by John Jorsett

John Kerry (version 2004) says it is wrong to question how a vet got his medals. President Bush agrees. But John Kerry (version 1996) had a different viewpoint:

In 1996, a left-wing news service raised questions about two small "V" clips that the chief of Naval operations wore over two of the medals on his chest full of them. The clips are awarded for valor under fire, and there was some doubt about whether Boorda's two tours in Vietnam aboard combat ships qualified him for the awards, although the Washington Post reported that a 1965 Navy manual appeared to support Boorda's right to wear the clips. Unlike Kerry, the awards did not provide grounds for Boorda to shorten his tours of duty. Hours before he was scheduled to meet with Newsweek reporters to discuss the controversy, the admiral went to his home at the Navy Yard and shot himself in the chest...
"Is it wrong? Yes, it is very wrong. Sufficient to question his leadership position? The answer is yes, which he clearly understood," said Sen. John Kerry, a Navy combat veteran who served in Vietnam.

Citing uncertainty of whether Boorda deliberately wore the pins improperly, Kerry added: "If he made a mistake, in my judgment it wasn't worth his life, so I'm very sad about it."

And let us consult the Boston Globe for the same day:

"If you wind up being less than what you’re pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value and self-esteem and your sense of how others view you."

Of Boorda and his apparent violation, Kerry said: "When you are the chief of them all, it has to weigh even more heavily."

1. Investigating how someone got his medals is acceptable...unless the one under investigation is John Kerry.

2. Sitting back while 527 organizations attack your opponent is acceptable...unless the organization is attacking John Kerry.

3. Requiring a candidate to open his all his records so the public cane really be informed is acceptable...unless the records are John Kerry's.

4. Talking about your opponent's record and how it lacks merit is dirty, negative campaigning...unless John Kerry is doing the talking.

5. Publically and directly questioning your opponent's service to the country is wrong...unless you are John Kerry.

6. Being in someplace and near someplace are two different things altogether...unless you are John Kerry.

Is anyone noticing a pattern here?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boorda; kerry
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1 posted on 08/27/2004 5:25:15 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

And Kerry is now facing his own controversy over combat V's he may have wrongly claimed:

http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerry200408271252.asp
http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerry200408271553.asp


2 posted on 08/27/2004 5:27:33 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: John Jorsett


3 posted on 08/27/2004 5:30:25 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9

Sorry--I was speechless. Great research.


4 posted on 08/27/2004 5:31:13 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: John Jorsett
Great find.

Not having heard the full Boorda story (isn't David Halfworth [sic] one of those who hounded the fellow, too?), it's doubly sad that the man took his own life over a minor transgression, compared to what some in prominent public positions have gotten away with lately.

Kerry, I do believe, is narcissistic enough to commit suicide in such a situation, but also so narcissistic that he would never admit error, either. Contradictory?

5 posted on 08/27/2004 5:33:22 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: John Jorsett

You mean that little matter of being on both sides of an issue?


6 posted on 08/27/2004 5:33:58 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry accused countless soldiers of committing war crimes that he himself never witnessed . . .)
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To: John Jorsett

First Edwards said, "Ask those who served with Kerry." Then Kerry basically said, "Look at the Naval Records".

I guess they don't have that "Be Careful what you ask for saying in NC or Boston."


7 posted on 08/27/2004 5:35:11 PM PDT by NavVet (“Bendeict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: John Jorsett

Bookmarking bump, great find.


8 posted on 08/27/2004 5:38:59 PM PDT by Springman
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To: John Jorsett

Good catch.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 5:40:08 PM PDT by harrycarey
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To: ScottFromSpokane
And Kerry is now facing his own controversy over combat V's he may have wrongly claimed:

I don't imagine he'll be shooting himself over it, though.

10 posted on 08/27/2004 5:40:07 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

The hits on JFnK just keep coming


11 posted on 08/27/2004 5:42:18 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: John Jorsett

" "If you wind up being less than what you’re pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value and self-esteem and your sense of how others view you."

Bet this is what Kerry's has shrink told him so often, he can say it from memory.
This bite doesn't fit Kerry's speech pattern- I have yet to hear the doofus say anything remotely intelligent when he has to speak extemporaneously.

"Is anyone noticing a pattern here?"

We are -the lazy media refuses to .


12 posted on 08/27/2004 5:44:00 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: John Jorsett

Great find.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 5:44:40 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: boxerblues

He's a certifiable liar who is also arrogant and careless. Kerry thought his past would NEVER catch up with him. Oh but it is and that's why his campaign's imploding.


14 posted on 08/27/2004 5:46:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: John Jorsett

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict:

If one person at the Republican National Convention says one thing that could conceivably be seen as insulting to John Kerry, there will be cries of outrage from Kerry and his lackeys, who will contend that their Convention took the high road discussing real issues, and never stooped to attacking the president personally.


15 posted on 08/27/2004 5:46:41 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: boxerblues
TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."


Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.



Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE


Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company


Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

16 posted on 08/27/2004 5:47:33 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: John Jorsett

I don't imagine he'll be shooting himself over it, though


It would be a pure shame if he did though. I'd mourn him.......for about 30 seconds.


17 posted on 08/27/2004 5:55:58 PM PDT by conshack
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To: BunnySlippers

And NOW he wants to talk anout issues and not vietnam...which he says he has for weeks.

What a joke. He played his cards the only way he could play them and its not gonna work. His schtick may play in liberal MA, but this is the big time, and the idiot from the land of kennedy and dukakis is out of his league.

It's because middle America is starting to show up on the election. His plan was to get a lead and hold on desparately, hoping it would hold and he could get a momentum slide. He didnt plan on his "war hero" tactic to lose ground before the RNC even started.....his momentum is all the farther its going to go. He needs something to go very, very bad on our side to get back in it. But one thing we know it will not be is a character issue with Dubya! They just cant believe that everyone is not like klinton! I love it!!


18 posted on 08/27/2004 5:57:10 PM PDT by libs_kma (Write congress to get out of UN and UNESCO - Again!)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Kerry has incorrect v on his SS, after what Boorda did do you think Kerry


19 posted on 08/27/2004 5:57:49 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: atomicpossum

A permanent solution for a temporary problem.


20 posted on 08/27/2004 6:00:56 PM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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