John Glenn urges Bush to condemn swift boat ads (new claim: Kerry was shot in 'Nam, kept fighting)

The only one with an unambigous story is Schacte, the training officer, who says he was on the boat and that there was no enemy fire.

Correct and there was no after action report nor was there a casualty report filed.

81 posted on 08/27/2004 4:43:41 PM PDT by kabar

That IS interesting!

82 posted on 08/27/2004 4:44:28 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)

Correct and there was no after action report nor was there a casualty report filed.

Good points. I had forgotten about that.

As the trainee, kerry wouldn't have been able to file them without Schacte's approval as the training officer.

83 posted on 08/27/2004 4:47:29 PM PDT by Bob

TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."

Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004

NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.

Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War
PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/

Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

84 posted on 08/27/2004 4:47:33 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)

John Glenn is a sychophant.
He's been glomming on to the Kennedys for years, and won re-election by dragging them to Ohio to stump for him.
Hell, I remember when he put out that photo of his water skiing with Jackie O one election year.

85 posted on 08/27/2004 4:47:40 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)

Boy, them commie heros stick together don't they. Later, we will be told Bush won because he refused to bail their sack-O-crap out.

86 posted on 08/27/2004 4:48:42 PM PDT by Waco

Thanks, John Glenn! All we need is one moron per day to keep this story alive in the MSM!

87 posted on 08/27/2004 4:49:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker (shove it!)

Gardner was not on the Boston Whaler that night. Schachte was the OIC. Kerry was on training mission. The two enlisted guys on the boat (Zaldonis and Runyon) that night don't remember that Schachte was on there. But logic would dictate, you don't put a new officer on a training mission without an experienced officer being present. Schacte's call sign was Batman. Kerry's was Robin. POW!!!

Schachte ran into Kerry in the halls of Congress about ten years ago. He called out "Robin" and Kerry called out "Batman". Kerry said let's get together for dinner but it never happened... according to Schachte.

88 posted on 08/27/2004 4:50:30 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)

Does anyone remember the names of the Keating Five?I can only think of John McCain and John Glenn.We need to get more ethical guidance from their ilk.

89 posted on 08/27/2004 4:50:50 PM PDT by kbennkc (F Trooper)

To: isthisnickcool

I keep waiting to hear about all the research they gathered on how space travel affects people his age.

And, because of that research, all the medical advances I am sure were derived from that little junket.

I just love watching my tax dollars at work.

90 posted on 08/27/2004 4:51:41 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)

"As a brother in arms with John Kerry, I feel these ads attack me, too."

Have it your way. Kerry is the one who attacked you, though.

91 posted on 08/27/2004 4:51:59 PM PDT by RGSpincich

JFK got shot during a nighttime raid? And did not receive credit for it? The MSM are not even going to look at this eye-witness testimony. All in all this is a Trump your Dole with a Glenn and a wwwwwin with more eyewitness testimony backing up JFK.
Give me a break!! What next? JFK in patriotic leotards with a big A one his chest(I apologize to anybody who suffered injury while forming a mental picture).
The Swiftees are causing a Rat breakdown. Keep up the pressure.

92 posted on 08/27/2004 4:52:28 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)

How in the hell did John Glenn become a multi-multi-millionaire after retiring from the military at the rank of Col., and serving in the Senate? And how does this fit in with the Founders concepts of military or civil service? </rhetorical questions>

93 posted on 08/27/2004 4:53:26 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")

Glenn is a disgrace to Ohio in particular (my home state) and the Marine Corp. in general. He could have had such a memorable legacy had he quit immediately BEFORE running as a DemocRAT.

94 posted on 08/27/2004 4:53:28 PM PDT by BillaryBeGone

Retired U.S. Sen. John Glenn said Friday that President Bush should take time in his Ohio visit Saturday to condemn ads attacking Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's military record in the Vietnam War.

This morning on Fox Carl Cameron came on to announce that the Kerry Kamp gave a heads up on Glenn's "major speech" on this issue. Then Fox went and took a few minutes live where he said the above and added the business about Ginsberg as "evidence" of the Swift Vets being a front for the Bush campaign.

This is the first I'm hearing about this:

Ohioan Pat Runyon, who introduced Glenn, told about 200 supporters at a union hall that he went on a nighttime raid with Kerry on a three-man boat in Vietnam, and that Kerry returned fire even after getting shot.

95 posted on 08/27/2004 4:54:22 PM PDT by cyncooper

Why is it that Democrats only believe that vets who have shrines made to them in enemy war museums deserve freedom of speech? Don't vets who aren't traitors have first amendment rights also? Where is the ACLU during all this?

96 posted on 08/27/2004 4:55:02 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)

hahahaha... yeah, "rocket man"...

97 posted on 08/27/2004 4:55:56 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch

It's sad that Glenn would sully his name like this, too bad.

He lost is honor and good name long ago during the Thompson hearings. He was vile and digusting and I will never forgive him or respect him again unless he admits what he did and cries for mercy. I am not one bit surprised he did this.

98 posted on 08/27/2004 4:56:36 PM PDT by cyncooper

Really! I had not read that. That is devastating.

99 posted on 08/27/2004 4:56:41 PM PDT by rushmom

He sullied his name a long time ago defending Slick Willie.

100 posted on 08/27/2004 5:00:32 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat

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