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Kerry on Boorda
NRO's Kerry Spot Blog ^ | 08/27/04 | Kate O’Beirne (via Jim Gerahty)

Posted on 08/27/2004 1:25:11 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

KERRY ON BOORDA [08/27 03:53 PM]

The current dispute over Kerry’s medals is a good time to recall the tragic suicide of the Navy's Admiral Mike Boorda in 1996.

Kate O’Beirne summarized it well:

“In 1996, a left-wing news service raised questions about two small "V" clips that the chief of Naval operations wore over two of the medals on his chest full of them. The clips are awarded for valor under fire, and there was some doubt about whether Boorda's two tours in Vietnam aboard combat ships qualified him for the awards, although the Washington Post reported that a 1965 Navy manual appeared to support Boorda's right to wear the clips. Unlike Kerry, the awards did not provide grounds for Boorda to shorten his tours of duty. Hours before he was scheduled to meet with Newsweek reporters to discuss the controversy, the admiral went to his home at the Navy Yard and shot himself in the chest. The CNO had been in command of the Navy during a troubled period and his leadership was being criticized by its senior officers. Still, among the notes he left was one to "the sailors" expressing his fear that the controversy over his decorations might harm the Navy. Boorda had lied about his age to join the Navy and was the first CNO to rise through the enlisted ranks.”

What did John Kerry have to say at the time about the matter? Let us consult the Boston Herald of May 18, 1996:

Veterans said yesterday that although they would take offense at someone falsely wearing a "V" combat pin, they couldn't see how this could drive Navy Adm. Jeremy Michael Boorda to suicide.

“Is it wrong? Yes, it is very wrong. Sufficient to question his leadership position? The answer is yes, which he clearly understood,” said Sen. John Kerry, a Navy combat veteran who served in Vietnam.

Citing uncertainty of whether Boorda deliberately wore the pins improperly, Kerry added: “If he made a mistake, in my judgment it wasn't worth his life, so I'm very sad about it.” And let us consult the Boston Globe for the same day:

“The military is a rigorous culture that places a high premium on battlefield accomplishment,” said Sen. John F. Kerry, who received numerous decorations, including a Bronze Star with a "V" pin, as a Navy lieutenant in Vietnam.

“In a sense, there's nothing that says more about your career than when you fought, where you fought and how you fought,” Kerry said.

“If you wind up being less than what you’re pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value and self-esteem and your sense of how others view you.”

Of Boorda and his apparent violation, Kerry said: “When you are the chief of them all, it has to weigh even more heavily.” Kerry‘s records refer to a "Silver Star with combat V." The Chicago Sun-Times has reported a U.S. Navy spokesman said, "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star." Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a "combat V" for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star "combat V," either.

If John Kerry has been touting a “V” that the Navy says he does not deserve, these quotes are going to be flung back in his face.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammo; boorda; combatv; kateobeirne; kerry; stolenvalor
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To: TonyInOhio
Evan Thomas, then Newsweek's Washington bureau chief who was scheduled to interview the Admiral, explained that he was devastated by his death, but defended his magazine's pursuit of the combat award story. "We've got to do our job," he said. "Part of that job is checking on the truthfulness of people in positions of power. Like the admiral."

Maybe we should send this quote ti Evan. I am sure he will then try to find out the truth about Kerry.

41 posted on 08/27/2004 2:12:31 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Bob
kerry's corrected DD215 lists the award as Silver Star with combat "V". This is bogus; Silver Stars just don't have "V"s and never have

Kerry's original DD214 also lists the Silver Star with combat "V". The DD215 is the form used to make corrections to the DD214.

42 posted on 08/27/2004 2:14:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: L.N. Smithee
"The military is a rigorous culture that places a high premium on battlefield accomplishment,” said Sen. John F. Kerry, who received numerous decorations, including a Bronze Star with a "V" pin, as a Navy lieutenant in Vietnam.

“In a sense, there's nothing that says more about your career than when you fought, where you fought and how you fought,” Kerry said.

“If you wind up being less than what you’re pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value and self-esteem and your sense of how others view you.”

Well! It looks like Kerry has written the script for the next SBVT ad himself! ~~~~~~~

EXACTLY. Then include a few words from the Swifties, just to make it self contained, and it would make a great ad. They can call on Kerry to hold himself to the same standards.

43 posted on 08/27/2004 2:16:46 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: Jim Robinson
"Admiral Boorda was an honorable man."

If we had a curious press, some reporter might ask *why* certain leftists suddenly poured over Admiral Boorda's resume.

The answer would be devastating, however, to the left. Adm. Boorda, who led the NATO strikes against the Serbs in Bosnia (not Kosovo), began to question why we were siding with the Islamic Mujahedeen against Bosnian Christians.

Shortly thereafter the left-wing slime machine went after him with guns blazing.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

44 posted on 08/27/2004 2:17:40 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TonyInOhio

Boorda must be rolling over in his grave right now. I was wondering about this story. I couldn't remember the Admiral's name. And of course, like clockwork, thr FReeper bus shows up with a relevant thread.


45 posted on 08/27/2004 2:18:38 PM PDT by Stag (Kerry, Lenin, Chirac - which one doesn't belong? Kerry. The others love their country.)
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To: kabar
Kerry's original DD214 also lists the Silver Star with combat "V". The DD215 is the form used to make corrections to the DD214.

Thanks, I hadn't seen the original DD214, just the corrected DD215.

46 posted on 08/27/2004 2:20:14 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, wasn't it discovered after Admiral Boorda's suicide that he did indeed deserve to wear those medals/ribbons? I seem to remember that and felt so sad about this honorable man's death.


47 posted on 08/27/2004 2:23:45 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: TonyInOhio
"Admiral Boorda Committed  Suicide for Far Less." The Same Thing!
48 posted on 08/27/2004 2:25:40 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Please, John! Don't kill yourself!

LOL

49 posted on 08/27/2004 2:34:26 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Bob
Thanks for the undeserved "V" explanation.

Here's a link to another article here on FR that sheds additional light (and reveals additional murkiness):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1200746/posts

50 posted on 08/27/2004 2:38:49 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Bush=America First; Kerry=Ask Ted Kennedy First)
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To: Tribune7

Kerry wouldn't make a dimple on Boorda's Clymer.


51 posted on 08/27/2004 2:40:00 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: Jim Robinson
In a column written shortly after Boorda's death, Hackworth said: "It is simply unthinkable an experienced officer would wear decorations he is not entitled to, awards that others bled for. There is no greater disgrace," he wrote.

Hypocrite Hackworth on Kerry: < crickets >

52 posted on 08/27/2004 2:48:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Donate to the Swifties, once again serving the nation selflessly)
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To: Southack
Adm. Boorda, who led the NATO strikes against the Serbs in Bosnia (not Kosovo), began to question why we were siding with the Islamic Mujahedeen against Bosnian Christians.

Any more information or links on that item?

Kerry is such a pompous, egotistical wind bag.
53 posted on 08/27/2004 3:07:50 PM PDT by baseballmom (Michael Moore - An un-American Hatriot)
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To: lonevoice

I am horrified, too. In fact, the more I learn about Kerry, the more convinced I am that he's a truly awful human being. God help this country if we elect him.


54 posted on 08/27/2004 3:11:25 PM PDT by walden
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To: doug from upland; RonDog

Hugh Hewitt is on this story right now...


55 posted on 08/27/2004 3:13:11 PM PDT by Dog ( formerly known as VC-- - - - - - Combat Dog.)
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To: L.N. Smithee; Joe Marine 76
From the Archives:

To: P8riot; All

Here I go again (at least the THIRD time)! Someone needs to go after Kerry's NAVAL OFFICER QUALIFICATION RECORD/SERVICE RECORD BOOK AND THE NAVMC FORM 1650(RECOMMENDATION FOR PERSONAL DECORATION AND AWARD) for EACH decoration! There you will find the truth! I know that one of these retired Admirals could get them. Hell, I bet you that even LtCol Ollie North could get them! Does anybody remember ADM BOURDA and his taking himself out over a Navy Achievement Medal with "V"......hmmmmm? Does anybody remember the Freedom of Information Act when it comes to dealing with PUBLIC FIQURES? Quit wasting your time on the dialogues, get the records! Come on MEDIA!
10 posted on 02/19/2004 5:50:38 AM PST by Joe Marine 76 (BUSH 2004!)

56 posted on 08/27/2004 3:20:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: baseballmom

You'll also find that former CIA director William Colby was found dead shortly after Boorda in 1996.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

57 posted on 08/27/2004 3:20:59 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TonyInOhio

Thanks! BTTT!


58 posted on 08/27/2004 3:28:09 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: P-Marlowe
Look what I found on another site....

His records are not open--the document that he is hiding is NAVMC(Navy-Marine Corps) Form 1650--the award recommendation (Summary of Action) for his Silver Star. This document details the circumstances of his award and lists the originator's name.I believe he wrote it himself and forged the signature of the originator --an officer who is likely one of the Swift Vets group. If this is true that means Kerry committed a court-martial offense to obtain this award to which he is not entitled.

To boast on his record Kerry has released the NAVMC 1650 for the Bronze Star--why not the more prestigious Silver Star? Kerry will not release this form--if he does his presidential campaign will be over.

59 posted on 08/27/2004 3:30:40 PM PDT by Dog ( formerly known as VC-- - - - - - Combat Dog.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Southack; cyncooper; Mo1; Shermy
Seems Joe Marine76 has been posting that on different forums.....I wonder if he knows what is on that form.

Look at 56.....then my follow up post..

60 posted on 08/27/2004 3:33:01 PM PDT by Dog ( formerly known as VC-- - - - - - Combat Dog.)
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