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Plot Thickens after checking records as Kerry requests
Sun Times ^ | 27 Aug 04

Posted on 08/27/2004 8:57:21 AM PDT by NavVet

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To: NavVet

Great article...Now wish I could read it on the front page of the NYT.

Oh well, one can dream...


21 posted on 08/27/2004 10:32:27 AM PDT by sissyjane (Does Rice show up on X-Rays??)
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To: NavVet
From the linked article it appears that Kerry chased down and killed an enemy soldier with a loaded rocket launcher, at least according to the original award citation.

I thought that later accounts suggested that the enemy soldier had fired the launcher and that it was unloaded when the enemy was killed.

It would be difficult for the launcher to be both loaded and recently fired. Given these descriptions, one might reasonably wonder if there was even a rocket launcher present. Did anyone besides Kerry and the person who wrote the description see the launcher? And is Kerry, in fact, the one who wrote the account quoted in the original citation? Who wrote the accounts which were used in later citations?

There are plenty of questions here for Kerry and others to answer. Such questions should not exist regarding the awarding of the Silver Star.

22 posted on 08/27/2004 10:43:30 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
1972
In July 1972 Jane travels to North Vietnam and tours the area for 2 weeks.
During July, 1972 she made six broadcasts over Radio Hanoi.

From the one on July 14, 1972 she said; "This is Jane Fonda speaking from Hanoi, and I'm speaking particularly to the U.S servicemen...I don't know what your officers tell you...but [your] weapons are illegal and that's not just rhetoric...The men who are ordering you to use these weapons are war criminals according to international law, and in the past, in Germany and Japan, men who committed these kinds of crimes were tried and executed."

Another broadcasts quoted Ho Chi Minh and had references to President Nixon as a "new-type Hitler", along with messages to the South Vietnamese soldiers to desert, "You are being used as cannon fodder for U.S. imperialism."(AFJ,May'88--Personalities)

Addressing herself to the men on the aircraft carriers in the area; "Use of these bombs or condoning the use of these bombs makes one a war criminal." When addressing herself to the pilots of the American planes she continued with; "Examine the reasons given to justify the murder you are being paid to commit." Upon her return to the U.S. she then addressed cheering students; "I bring greetings from our Vietnamese brothers and sisters."

Jane formed the Indochina Peace Campaign which was anti-Nixon and pro Hanoi.
When the POWs returned she added "I think that one of the only ways that we are going to redeem ourselves as a country for what we have done there is not to hail the POWs as heroes, because they are hypocrites and liars....History will judge them severely." The attacks continued for four months and was not simply popping off as she told Barbara Walters in her efforts at rehabilitating herself. (HE,6-30-90)
---http://www.moorej.org/jane/

What good company JfnK kept.

23 posted on 08/27/2004 10:45:15 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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To: NavVet

... But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'Combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star."

and there it is... the Navy must actually be looking at his files now for revaluation

24 posted on 08/27/2004 10:57:05 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: blau993
That's what I watch for. I have seen a couple of surprising admissions (small, but uncharacteristic) in the mainstream lately. That tells me it's going against him - when they finally HAVE to admit some modicum of defeat to appear somewhat unbiased.
25 posted on 08/27/2004 5:35:21 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: Marysecretary; MeekOneGOP; texasbluebell; Bahbah

Did you see this one.....Looks like even the DOD may be getting involved....Wonder how the MSM will be able to spin this?


26 posted on 08/27/2004 5:39:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama; NavVet
The Kerry campaign has repeatedly stated that the official naval records prove the truth of Kerry's assertions about his service. But the official records on Kerry's Web site only add to the confusion.

This idjit needs to release HIS MILITARY RECORDS!

Help the Kerry Campaign With Its paperwork!
Email Them a Standard Form 180 Now!



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27 posted on 08/27/2004 5:55:22 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: pabianice

Aren't there records at the other end? Knowing the military, there should be one piece of paper in your file, and a copy of that paper in some other file somewhere else. The military never made just one copy of anything did they?


28 posted on 08/27/2004 5:56:20 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: samtheman

Why couldn't she ever be arrested for treason?


29 posted on 08/27/2004 11:07:29 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: William Tell

There is a picture of Kerry carrying it floating around somewhere. It's clearly loaded.


30 posted on 08/28/2004 10:16:28 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks, hoosiermama. I hadn't seen this. I'll check it out. Mxxx


31 posted on 08/28/2004 6:37:02 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: Yaelle

There is no justice.


32 posted on 08/29/2004 7:44:53 PM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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