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1 posted on 08/27/2004 5:56:37 AM PDT by Bob
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"The timeline in "Unfit for Command" for John Kerry's deployment on the USS Gridley doesn't match the ship's operations ..."

Picky, picky, picky - so what if the SBVT can't get their facts straight? They still are telling a whale of a story, no need to have facts correct if they get in the way of the plot. Just ask MM about F911.


2 posted on 08/27/2004 6:00:07 AM PDT by familyofman (nobody's right if everybody's wrong)
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The Gridley crew has a Kerry page up on their site. They don't care for him much as a possible president.

http://home.nycap.rr.com/pwcarter/the%20kerry%20page.html


3 posted on 08/27/2004 6:02:41 AM PDT by gilliam
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Even if he was off the Gulf of Tonkin, he wasn't on shore being shot at, as he said in his speech.


5 posted on 08/27/2004 6:09:33 AM PDT by igoramus987
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I look for this being more of an editor's mistake than one by the Swifties. Maybe the final text sent to the printer left out the word "for" in the sentence..."Unfit for Command"'s timeline indicates that Gridley departed Vietnam January 2, 1968 and, travelling via Australia, returned to Long Beach on June 8."
8 posted on 08/27/2004 6:23:51 AM PDT by Lecie
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EXCERPTED from UNFIT FOR COMMAND, page 23

The First “Tour of Vietnam”

John Kerry’s first year of duty, from June 1967 to June 1968, was spent aboard the USS Gridley, a guided missile frigate. During this year, Kerry experienced no combat. His assignment aboard the Gridley is, however, the basis on which Kerry claims to have served “two tours” in Vietnam. Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign describes his service in the following words, which frequently get picked up uncritically by the news media: “After graduating from Yale, Kerry enlisted in the Navy and was sent to Vietnam in 1967. He served two tours of duty and won a Bronze Star, a Silver Star, and three Purple Heart.”

A closer look at his service record, however, shows that the assignment in 1967 was not to Vietnam, but to the Gridley. The guided missile frigate was in the Pacific and in December 1967 did guard duty for planes operating in the China Sea and the Gulf of Tonkin.

To say that Kerry was sent to Vietnam in 1967 exaggerates what was actually service on a deep fleet ocean vessel, involving no combat. Indeed the Gridley operated along the California coast, and on January 2, 1968, the Gridley sailed for Australia and then returned to Long Beach, California on June 8. In other words, the Gridley was in what could be considered a “fighting zone” ( still far off the coast of Vietnam) for probably fewer than five weeks while Kerry was aboard; five week off the coast of Vietnam could hardly be called a “tour of duty”.

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Can you show us the document in question? Kerrys record.

11 posted on 08/27/2004 6:45:43 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Bob; Hon; kabar; Howlin

NOT true:

You're reading it wrong:

The Gridley departed FOR Vietnam January 68, arrived off the coast for plane guard and SAR duty first week in March, and departed in late May 68 (a grand total of less than 90 days - all of it safe, easy, air-conditioned duty off-shore!) to arrive BACK in Long Beach the first wek in June.

Kerry, in a March San Diego paper interview this year, told of being "off-Midway" on the way to Vietnam on Feb 25, 1968.


18 posted on 08/27/2004 7:16:05 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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"Unfit for Command"'s timeline indicates that Gridley departed Vietnam January 2, 1968 and, travelling via Australia, returned to Long Beach on June 8. Missing from this account is an additional period of Gulf of Tonkin SAR duty in the time period April 1 - May 5, 1968. This information appears in Kerry's Fitness Report for the period of March 23 - July 20, 1968. Regarding kerry's MLK assassination story, I believe that it's possible for Gridley to have reached its SAR station by the time he was killed on April 4th.

I'm lost. I don't see where the book is wrong. Kerry said he was in combat when King was killed. The Gridley wasn't in combat.

28 posted on 08/27/2004 7:58:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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Let's separate all the fly sh!t from the pepper for the LEFTIES. I am sure they appreciate it.

NOT!

34 posted on 08/27/2004 9:17:37 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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