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Survey says whites not majority in Texas anymore
KLTV 7 TX ^ | August 26, 2004 | KLTV 7 TX

Posted on 08/26/2004 6:45:42 PM PDT by Conservative Firster

HOUSTON White non-Hispanics are no longer the majority in Texas -- for the first time since the 1800's.

Today's Census Bureau survey says whites stopped being the majority in Texas as of last year.

Also, the numbers show that Texas joined only Illinois and North Carolina in having a poverty rate that measurably increased -- while income decreased -- in 2002-03.

Texas state demographer Steve Murdock says the two trends are related as economic woes have slowed white migration from other states.

Luis Figueroa with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund says the future of Latinos is the future of Texas, as the population numbers show.

Also:

-- Most of the Texas population expansion since 2000 has come from births and international immigration -- both sources of predominantly Hispanic growth.

-- The black population remained basically flat, at around ten-point-eight percent.

-- Asian-Americans now account for about three percent of the Texas population.


TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigdeal; butaretheytexans; immigration; mexico; sowhat; texas; thesunstillcomesup; whocares
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To: FITZ

Well that is certainly disappointing, I was sure I had finally found something good to say about them. Oh well, back to the drawing board.


221 posted on 08/27/2004 11:42:06 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hey Kerry! the Swift Vets and you, know which story is true-you say they lied-we say bullsh*t!.)
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To: wardaddy

LOL! I was looking for a bright side, but my hopes of finding it are growing dim.


222 posted on 08/27/2004 11:47:29 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hey Kerry! the Swift Vets and you, know which story is true-you say they lied-we say bullsh*t!.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

No wonder Illegal aliens are the liberals most cherished import.


223 posted on 08/27/2004 11:52:32 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hey Kerry! the Swift Vets and you, know which story is true-you say they lied-we say bullsh*t!.)
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To: cyborg

Welcome to the Last Ditch.


224 posted on 08/27/2004 1:38:46 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Yep I guess.


225 posted on 08/27/2004 1:43:10 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ron H.
Can you provide documentaion for this - a link?

This has been discussed before, it was part of a deal the President proposed, but yesterday one of the California Congresscritters brought it up on talk radio. I believe it was Dana Rohrbacher. 

226 posted on 08/27/2004 2:04:45 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes a difference, but not often.)
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To: FrankWild
How will the Republicans win national elections when Texas joins California

Easy they just sell their souls and become RINO's

227 posted on 08/27/2004 2:10:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes a difference, but not often.)
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To: PinnedAndRecessed

I don't have the numbers either, but living in Mexifornia I'd say whites are probably a minority. Heaven help that anything might be done to stop illegal immigration.


228 posted on 08/27/2004 2:17:22 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Their comments were, "The Republicans don't want us."

This is Barbara Striesand and you know it.

229 posted on 08/27/2004 2:17:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes a difference, but not often.)
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To: Porterville
As promised, statistics.

1. Average native born high school graduation rate is 86.6%. For foreign born Hispanics, the average is 49.6 and for Mexicans specifically, it is 33.8%. According to a Pew Hispanic Center study, between 1970-2000, the educational level of Hispanics had improved significantly but "not yet produced a notable convergence with the level of education in the native-born U.S. population."

Educational level directly correlates with earning power and assimilation into society. If folks have not learned basic skills and the history of the U.S., one can hardly expect that they are meshing nicely into society.

2. As noted above, the low education levels correspond with lower economic performance. In 1998, the poverty rate of Mexican immigrants was 31%, 24% for Cubans and 21% for Salvadorans. I mention these three groups because they were the largest of the immigrant groups during that period.According to the Latino National Political Survey which used data from 1989-90, while second generation Mexican-origin folks do better than their parents, economic progress then plateaus. Also, welfare rates decrease in the second generation but then begin increasing again for subsequent generations.

Again, if folks are not able to improve themselves economically, it is harder to assimilate into society. Some of this trouble is the fact that those immigrants now here are facing a constant stream of immigration pushing wages down.

3. According to a 2003 NY Times/CBS poll, 23% of Hispanic immigrants were citizens as opposed to 69% of non-Hispanic immigrant groups. This is actually a marked decrease from earlier data which had found that 32.4% of Mexican immigrants were citizens and 32.4% of Salvadorans were citizens. Mexicans entering between 1965 and 1974 had the lowest rates of naturalization and those entering from 1975 to 1984 were the fifth lowest group to naturalize.

4. In 1992, a study of children in Southern California and South Florida, were asked to identify their nationality. 1.9% of Mexicans said American, while 32.6 said they were Mexican. For those who were born in the US, 3.9% said Mexican while twice that number said Mexican. The majority, 38.8% saw themselves as hyphenated "Mexican-Americans," an important distinction because Mexico is one of the 14 of 17 Latin American countries that recognizes dual citizenship between their nations and America. As noted in Michael Jones-Correa's article "Under Two Flags: Dual Nationality in Latin America and Its Consequences for Naturalization in the United States (Inertnational Migration Review, Winter 2001) "Mexican consulates in the United States have been encouraging Mexican nationals to naturalize as U.S. citizens, while keeping their nationality as Mexicans as well." Similar pushes for dual citizenship also came from the governments of Brazil, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Panama and Peru. According to the Latino National Political Survey, "the longer the immigrants were in the United States, the less likely they were to agree that everyone should learn English.

Finally, though this is anecdotal and not statistical, there are numerous examples of protesters carrying the Mexican flag, booing the US team and the "Star Spangled Banner" at a Mexico-US soccer game played in Los Angeles.

Given these facts, I am comfortable in my assertion that instantaneous communications, proximity to Mexico and Latin America, an ethos actively opposing assimilation and a constant influx of new immigrants from Latin America have acted as a "perfect storm" that makes the assimilation of Hispanic immigrants less than those immigrants who were totally cut off from their homelands and were expected to assimilate as Americans.

And feel free to mock any of my typos. I spell checked, but that can't always be trusted. Also, these stats come from Samuel Huntington's book, Who Are We?
230 posted on 08/27/2004 3:11:05 PM PDT by asmith92008 (Rome wasn't burnt in a day.)
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To: itsahoot

How will the Republicans win national elections when Texas joins California?

Why will they care if they have all the cheap labor they want?


231 posted on 08/27/2004 3:12:07 PM PDT by asmith92008 (Rome wasn't burnt in a day.)
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To: Syncro
When Clinton was president just before the 2000 elections, he sent out THOUSANDS of voter registration cards to ILLEGAL Mexicans (more likely tens of thousands) and all they had to do was tear the card off, and present it at the polling booth, and boom...they could vote.

This started happening before the 1996 election.

Link to F.A.I.R. article

(snippet)
What changed during the Clinton years is that altering the political landscape became an objective of immigration policy. In much the same way as employers have used immigrants to change labor market conditions to their advantage, the Clinton Administration used them to create an electorate more to their liking.
(end of snippet)

I thought Bill Clinton was toast after the Republican sweep in 1994. He brought in immigrants who would vote for him and now we're stuck with them.

Illegal immigration needs to be stopped and legal immigration needs to be reduced.

232 posted on 08/27/2004 4:17:39 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-sa)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
What's rather humorous here is a year or so ago when they announced Cal was no longer a majority white, many here, including many from Texas thought this funny, and it was all over for Cal, we deserved it, yada yada.

Well I never laughed. California voted for Nixon 3 times, Reagan twice, Ford and Bush once. Now, its in the rats corner. This effects us all.

I believe if immigration, both illegal and legal isn't reduced, other states will fall into the democrats column come election time.

Illinois could be used as another example.

233 posted on 08/27/2004 4:25:01 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-sa)
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To: Conservative Firster

Survey says whites not majority in Texas anymore...And I'm tired of being hassled by the man!


234 posted on 08/27/2004 4:27:35 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Missouri

Agree.


235 posted on 08/27/2004 4:37:14 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I know. If you don;t like the flood of immigration, you're racist. I mean, just because Southern California is closing down emergency rooms because we can't afford using them as health clinics for illegals is no reason to question our immigration policy. And the fact that we have to spend an ever growing amount of resources for kids in our classrooms that can;t speak English is certainly no reason to suggest we slow immigration down. And sure, our freeways are packed but why should that matter.

Yep, anyone concerned about immigration is just a stinking racist.
236 posted on 08/27/2004 5:23:51 PM PDT by asmith92008 (Rome wasn't burnt in a day.)
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To: All

Tancredo for president in 2008!!!! Seriously, after Bush gets re-elected the gloves are off. Bush is selling us out on the borders issue just like Kerry would. If something isn't done soon we are doomed. As it is we already have terrorists coming accross the border, let alone all the illegal hispanics. I sense a civil war within thie GOP to take back control for REAL conservatives. I for one have had ENOUGH of this neo-con crap. Todays GOP is yesterdays Democrats and todays Democrats are insane!!


237 posted on 08/27/2004 6:02:00 PM PDT by EvilRightWingRepublican
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To: dennisw

Actually he's part Irish I hate to say --- his paternal grandfather came from Ohio but was of Irish descent, his mother came from Spain. It's interesting how someone with so little if any Mexican in him decides that real Mexicans have to leave.


238 posted on 08/27/2004 7:34:25 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Porterville
is hard to get more Hispanics to participate...

That lump together word again --- I don't know why you assume all "hispanics" are for open borders with Mexico. Not all "hispanics" are immigrants or born to immigrants. Silvestre Reyes was the border patrol chief who stood up to the Mexican government which condemned him when he put Operation Blockade and Operation Hold-the-Line into place and that model is still used in parts of the border and the "hispanics" admired him very much for that --- so much that they elected him to Congress. He had no other claim to fame before that --- he was seen as tough on border control.

Many border residents including "hispanics" are quite aware of what is going on on the other side and the last thing anyone wants is all that moved over here. It's not just those so-called "anglos" who are getting socked with some very hefty property tax increases.

239 posted on 08/27/2004 7:40:49 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Porterville

And we shouldn't forget that "hispanic" guy Cesar Chavez and that "hispanic" group the United Farm Workers --- they actually did violence on the illegals and went to the border to help enforce it. Cesar wasn't an illegal and did not come from Mexico.


240 posted on 08/27/2004 7:42:52 PM PDT by FITZ
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