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To: azhenfud; Mudboy Slim; FITZ; All

I'm not finding anything current, yet, but Rohrabacher made it seem looming soon. Looks like this is partly State Dept. Someone on this thread said that. Gee, thanks, Powell.

"thus allowing people who split their careers between two countries to get retirement benefits from both. "

This is TOO funny. Just how many of us are gonna run on down there for a freakin' job!! Good greif.


Source: Joel Mowbry, "Illegal but Paid? The Question of Social Security for Mexicans," National Review, January 27, 2003. Daily Policy Digest

Friday, January 24, 2003

If top officials at the State Department and the Social Security Administration (SSA) implement a proposed agreement, the cost of Social Security could balloon by an additional $345 billion over the next two decades -- mostly for Mexican nationals who worked in the United States illegally, claims a report in National Review.
The proposed agreement, known as "Totalization," would combine the taxes paid into America's and a foreign country's respective social-security systems -- thus allowing people who split their careers between two countries to get retirement benefits from both.

~snip~
http://www.ncpa.org/iss/sos/2003/pd012403d.html


72 posted on 08/26/2004 7:58:50 PM PDT by AuntB ("Go count your blessings and when you're done come complain to me." MY Grandma!!)
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To: AuntB; Mudboy Slim; FITZ; All

Yeah, like how many in America can "retire" on 1000 pesos a month from Mexico? Geesh! "TOTALIZATION" of the US SSI is exactly the correct terminology.


77 posted on 08/26/2004 8:10:39 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: AuntB

It will easily end up being the level of fraud we saw in the 80's amnesty when an estimated 300,000 illegls were to be given amnesty and 3,000,000 people who had never before stepped foot in the USA came over to claim it.

Lots of illegals actually have several stolen identifies --- there would be nothing keeping each of their identities from making a claim. You could have 10 relatives share a stolen social security number --- with each claiming to have worked 6 quarters to each get full benefits when one might have actually worked 60 quarters all himself which would "entitle" only one to one set of full benefits.

Every time an illegal who has staked a claim on our social security dies, you could have any number of survivors step forward claiming to be entitled for survivor benefits. Mexico has large numbers of "common-law" families and it would be impossible to limit the claims.


89 posted on 08/26/2004 9:30:47 PM PDT by FITZ
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