Posted on 08/26/2004 4:09:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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Showing ads first..
Starting now...
Minnesota reporting!!!!!! To think I was a young woman when 1971 was happening .... hehehehehehe
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Thanks for the ping.
Thanks! I'm recording and watching to see if Kerry is wearing his medals. Kerry has variously claimed A) that he threw his medals the next day B) that he had his medals in safekeeping elsewhere and only threw his ribbons C) that he threw someone else's medals D) that medals and ribbons are the same thing.
OMG.....CSPAN is showing the Kerry/McCain ad that was pulled.....CSPAN is vile.
Mentioned that only 40 minutes of two hours is available, but the full two hours is in archives.
I love them replaying these ads! I'm glad they're showing the second ad!
"Phony Vietnam veterans alleged in books
Guenter Lewy's 1978 book America in Vietnam (pages 316-317) and B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley's Stolen Valor (Verity Press, Inc., Dallas, Texas)(pages 113, 131-137) contain similar information about alleged flaws in Lane's book. Neither book, however, refutes any of the testimony given during the Winter Soldier Investigation.
Lawyer and leftist activist Mark Lane was one of the organizers of Winter Soldier. In 1970, Lane had published a book called Conversations With Americans purporting to be interviews with Vietnam veterans about war crimes, containing Vietnam tales of atrocities. Reporter Neil Sheehan showed some interviewed in Lane's book had never served in Vietnam and others had not been in the situations they described. Lane admitted he did not check military records, as confirmation of details was not relevant. Lane later confirmed these militarty records.
The following are often falsely listed as being participants in Winter Soldier, but were actually in Lane's book instead. This confusion is probably due to Stolen Valor having an explanation of Lane's history within the section on Winter Soldier.
Chuck Onan, stock room clerk in Beaufort, S.C.
Michael Schneider, deserted in Europe and deserted again in the USA.
Terry Whitmore, was in an unpopulated area of Vietnam.
Garry Gianninoto, medical corpsman at battalion headquarters.
VVAW leader and Winter Soldier co-organizer Al Hubbard lied about being an officer, and sustaining war injuries - but he never testified at Winter Soldier .
According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in one documented case, medals and honors."
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm
they say no know 2 hr version exists
C-Span is showing all the ads...
"Back then ribbons, medals were absolutely interchangeable,"
Look at this .....CSPAN keeps showing the same McCain ad....those rotten SOB's.
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