LIVE THREAD: John Kerry 1971 Testimony Before Senate Foreign Relations Cmte.

August 26, 2004

[Howlin]

On C-SPAN at 8:00 P.M. & 11:05 P.M. EDT

[Howlin]

Oh, look who we have on MSNBC: Douglas Brinkley, going with the lie that Bush is behind this!

Rick Kaplan has put out the word, hasn't he?

[Howlin]

I'll have to catch that on the rerun!

[Mo1]

Thanks .. sending that off also

Do you have any links about what really happen with Tet offensive ???

[MEG33]

If you could have heard him talking constantly despite the hosts efforts and misrepresenting Bennett without allowing anyone to speak ,you would see why my opinion is low..Moonbeam was not an outright "progressive"(read communist) but he encouraged and allowed power to these groups...

[snooker]

I feel sorry for Scarborough.

[Finalapproach29er]

Worry not. People are just mad right now that Bush hasn't given them more handouts. But on election day, they will want someone who will confront the Mohammad fanatics.

[Howlin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tet_Offensive

Not vouching for it, but it seems fair.

[Howlin]

Well, who is this DIPWAD on MSNBC who is a writer and says "they are calling Kerry a babykiller and there's no evidence in the records that he was a babykiller?"

Does she not know that Kerry is the one who called Vietnam vets "babykillers?"

I say again, WE NEED OUR OWN TALK SHOW!!!!

[hole_n_one]

A sweating Douglas Brinkley on Norville, speaking of the SBV for Truth story......

The New York Times coverage has been stellar.

lol!

[Howlin]

Let's all pretend Brinkley doesn't have a vested interest in the Swifties being liars!

[Fedora]

Yes, I think there's good evidence of Fulbright collaborating with the VVAW and their allies on this--and not just Fulbright but a number of other left-wing Congressmen and Senators, who had previously supported the Winter Soldier investigation (notably Detroit Congressman John Conyers, a political ally of United Auto Workers and the Black Panthers, both in turn supporters of the antiwar movement). The FBI's files on the VVAW (100-HQ-448092, Section 2, p. 199) mention that an informant learned on 4/12/71, just before Dewey Canyon III, "the VVAW had received $50,000 from Senators McGovern and Hatfield, who according to the source, obtained the money from an unknown New York source". The source may be deduced from this article:

The protests were set for the week of April 20. Kerry spent some of his time at the Georgetown townhouse of his longtime friend George Butler, working the phones, trying to round up veterans. But the real problem was money. Kerry, who was not financially independent despite rumors to the contrary, was supposed to raise money to pay for buses that would transport the veterans.

He called his friend Walinsky, who had run unsuccessfully for New York attorney general and had excellent financial connections. Walinsky arranged a meeting of potential donors at the Seagram Building in New York City. Among those present were Seagram chief executive Edgar M. Bronfman Sr. and about 20 other New York businessmen who opposed the war. Kerry delivered a low-key speech about the importance of having veterans attend the protest. Then the businessmen were each asked to stand and declare how much they would contribute.

"We raised probably $50,000," Walinsky recalled. "It took an hour."

Incidentally, what's especially interesting about this is that Bronfman was named in a Senate organized crime investigation (see Frank Costello and Edwin Baldwin's testimony to the Kefauver Committee) as a member of a bootlegging syndicate connected to the Mafia syndicate of Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano, and to Joseph Kennedy's bootlegging partner Abner "Longy" Zwillman. The Bronfman family has donated to Kerry's campaigns ever since:

The Official Kerry-Edwards Blog

Business Leaders for Kerry-Edwards

Edgar Bronfman, Former Chairman, Seagram Company

Edgar Bronfman, Jr., Chairman and CEO, Warner Music Group

[kingattax]

THE KERRY CAMPAIGN

[Miss Marple]

We do need our own talk show. We could make it very popular with humor, household and gardening tips, and insider poitical information;

I bet we could beat Jerry Springer.

[sweetliberty]

"The polling numbers are awfully close."

You know the scariest thing about that is that there are that many ignorant people in this country.

[Howlin]

I do NOT feel sorry for Scarborough. He has to know they are using him.

[Dolphy]

Thanks, snooker. It's the perfect length for those I know who continue to cling to their wrongheaded views. Truth to power? The media is the power and the left figured that out long ago.

[cyborg]

Yes :(

[TBall]

"I'd say you're edging towards the shallow end yourself." How so, because I worry that uninformed people could view this and be fooled? Did you see any critical questions addressed to him after it was over? >

[Fedora]

LOL! Yeah, I noticed he was trying to sound like JFK by pronouncing all his "a"s as "ah"s and adding extra "r"s (I was half-expecting to hear him pronounce "Cuba" as "Cub-er").

[truthkeeper]

Well, make sure you post any good stuff you find. God knows we'll never see or hear it from the MSM.