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"GHOST VOTES" OUTLAW .50 CALIBERS IN CALIFORNIA!
E-MAIL | 08-26-04 | President, Fifty Caliber Institute

Posted on 08/26/2004 1:35:08 PM PDT by TexasCowboy

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To: ELS

The rats have been doing this at the polls, for years!


61 posted on 08/26/2004 4:24:11 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: TexasCowboy
ARHnold will sign it and even applaud the manner in which the "votes" were secured. How very historically "Austrian."
62 posted on 08/26/2004 4:46:12 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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To: B4Ranch
Restore the Second Amendment
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

Ron Paul in the US House of Representatives, January 9, 2003

Mr. Speaker, I rise to restore the right the founding fathers saw as the guarantee of every other right by introducing the Second Amendment Protection Act. This legislation reverses the steady erosion of the right to keep and bear arms by repealing unconstitutional laws that allow power-hungry federal bureaucrats to restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

Specifically, my legislation repeals the five-day waiting period and the "instant" background check, which enables the federal government to compile a database of every gun owner in America. My legislation also repeals the misnamed ban on "semi-automatic" weapons, which bans entire class of firearms for no conceivable reason beside the desire of demagogic politicians to appear tough on crime. Finally, my bill amends the Gun Control Act of 1968 by deleting the "sporting purposes" test, which allows the Treasury Secretary to infringe on second amendment rights by classifying a firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun) as a "destructive device" simply because the Secretary believes the gun to be "non-sporting."

Thomas Jefferson said "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; ...that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." Jefferson, and all of the Founders, would be horrified by the proliferation of unconstitutional legislation that prevents law-abiding Americans from exercising their right and duty to keep and bear arms. I hope my colleagues will join me in upholding the Founders' vision for a free society by cosponsoring the Second Amendment Restoration Act.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

63 posted on 08/26/2004 4:47:06 PM PDT by glock rocks ( What was I thinking?)
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To: TexasCowboy
Contact the Governor TODAY and urge him NOT TO SIGN AB-50

I wouldn't waste my time. Aaanold is anti arms rights. This one is not going to be even close.

The best bet is the courts. Ooops, I forgot, the CA Courts are anti arms rights too, as is the federal 9th circuit where any federal appeal would have to go. If it comes to that, the Supreme Court will deny cert with no reason given (or required.

Bottom line, you're hosed if you live in CA and wish to own a .50 caliber long range target shooter.

There is one alternative, expressed to me by the proprietor of a certain San Antonio gun range: You people in California should "vote with a rope".

64 posted on 08/26/2004 4:47:47 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Awestruck
living in this state makes my head explode....

Every gunowner in California, New Jersey, Chicago and New York City should at all times maintain an ample supply of duct tape, to prevent this problem.

We in Texas always maintain a good amount on hand, we have our own Democrats too (although none hold statewide elected office). Besides you can fix durn near anything with it.

65 posted on 08/26/2004 4:50:57 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: stevio; Baynative; MarineBrat; Born Conservative; Enterprise; Squantos; Eaker; humblegunner; ...
The propaganda campaign coming from the Democrats to justify this travesty of justice is going to include such ridiculous claims as a fifty being able to shoot four miles with accuracy, blow airliners out of the sky and kill people at a one mile range with no problem.

Here's some ammunition to refute those claims:

A mile is 1,760 yards or 1,609 meters.
Although there is no average round for the fifty, the most common fifty round has a Maximum Performance Envelope of 1,400 meters.
This means that at Standard Atmospheric Conditions the round will go from supersonic to transonic flight at approximately 1,400 meters. At this distance from the gun, the round will begin to wobble and accuracy is lost.
Past this distance the round goes to subsonic flight, and it may actually begin to tumble.
A two MOA arc at 1,400 meters translates to about 32 inches on the target so it's imperative that the round be in supersonic flight at impact.

To shoot an airliner from the sky, assuming one could hit it, would take an incendiary round.
The standard for tip detonation of the RDX explosive used in incendiaries is 2024 Aluminum 0.80 inches thick.
Unless the round is traveling at supersonic velocity, it will not detonate.

One thousand yards is the barrier for most shooters of the fifty caliber rifle.
Past that takes many calculations of true range, slant range, barometric pressure, ambient temperature, temperature of the ammo, wind direction, wind velocity, right hand drift and many hours of training.
No one, even with extensive sniper training with light to medium guns, is going to pick up the big gun and fire a 3 MOA past 1000 yards.

All of this is not to say that a terrorist cannot cause havoc with a fifty caliber weapon, but the emotional claims made by the anti-gunners can be refuted with facts.

(All data from "The Complete .50 Caliber Sniper Course" by Dean Michaelis)

66 posted on 08/26/2004 4:51:52 PM PDT by TexasCowboy
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To: TexasCowboy
Facts and logic never work with liberals.

I left CA in 89 and moved to FL.
67 posted on 08/26/2004 4:55:26 PM PDT by snooker (Looks like the Swifties snookered the dims ...)
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To: TexasCowboy

Is there any way to challenge the validity of the vote?


68 posted on 08/26/2004 4:56:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: TexasCowboy; adversarial; Alylonee; AmericanHombre; BibChr; blaze; BornOnTheFourth; budwiesest; ...

Sacramento Area Ping


69 posted on 08/26/2004 4:56:53 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: TexasCowboy
No one, even with extensive sniper training with light to medium guns, is going to pick up the big gun and fire a 3 MOA past 1000 yards.

I wouldn't put it past Long Trang.........May God rest his soul.

FRegards,

70 posted on 08/26/2004 4:57:22 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Not all of us are sheep.............................................................................)
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To: NormsRevenge; Euro-American Scum

ping


71 posted on 08/26/2004 4:57:30 PM PDT by glock rocks ( What was I thinking?)
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To: TexasCowboy

P.S. I assume that there is some provision the the state constitution that requires a legislator to actually be present to vote, isn't there?


72 posted on 08/26/2004 4:57:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You don't think we actually follow that our here do you?


73 posted on 08/26/2004 4:58:18 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Godebert

"You're looking to Arnie Schwarzenegger to support your 2nd Amendment rights? That's funny."

Sad but true. He may well vote for this awful piece of pap that will also ban .50 caliber black-powder muzzle loaders.


74 posted on 08/26/2004 5:00:15 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Free Tibet...from Communist China!)
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To: TexasCowboy

Glad I'm not in California.


75 posted on 08/26/2004 5:02:19 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: PeterFinn; Godebert

HE pushed the conservancy bill that will take away what is left of your property rights. The only rights he seems to support are the lefty ones.


76 posted on 08/26/2004 5:03:26 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Baynative

Unbelievable.

Have we sunk that this far?


77 posted on 08/26/2004 5:05:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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bump


78 posted on 08/26/2004 5:06:44 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: farmfriend

No argument here. I'd almost rather have had Gray Davis stay in office cause I could hate him with a clear conscience. I'm at least consoled by the fact that Ah-nold can never be President - for some reason, Austrians never do well when they rule someone else's country (i.e. Hitler, Adolf)


79 posted on 08/26/2004 5:08:56 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Free Tibet...from Communist China!)
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To: TexasCowboy
The story is on the homepage of the homepage of The Fifty Caliber Institute"

It's just the same letter though.

80 posted on 08/26/2004 5:12:55 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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