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Canadian MP won't apologize for calling U.S. "coalition of idiots"
Toronto "Red" Star ^

Posted on 08/26/2004 10:14:09 AM PDT by SB00

I won't apologize, Parrish says MP referred to U.S. 'coalition of idiots' in speech yesterday

SUE BAILEY CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA - Prime Minister Paul Martin didn't ask Carolyn Parrish to retract her latest anti-American slur, and the maverick MP has no plans to back down, she says.

Martin phoned soon after Parrish lobbed her latest verbal grenade but didn't ask her to apologize, she said today.

"I believe in free speech and I am a colourful speaker," she said in an interview. "I occasionally will use terms that other people find bold.

"That's me, and I'm going to stop trying to fit into some cookie-cutter mould that somebody else has tried to design for me."

She made the comments as critics demanded that Martin take action.

Parrish made international headlines last year for publicly muttering: "Damn Americans, I hate the bastards."

The Toronto-area MP landed in hot water again Wednesday for calling missile defence supporters "a coalition of the idiots."

Martin publicly rebuked her, saying "there is no room in this debate for that kind of language."

Then he picked up the phone.

"He talked about options" but did not ask her to say sorry, Parrish said.

"The tone was quite business-like and acceptable," she said of the five-minute call. "He's a very nice man."

Martin's inner circle weighed in today on Parrish's comments.

"I think she should have kept her mouth shut," Immigration Minister Judy Sgro said as she arrived for a cabinet meeting.

Defence Minister Bill Graham said the remark wasn't helpful in a situation that requires "civilized discussion."

And a group that lobbies for individual rights and better government said Martin should do more.

The National Citizens' Coalition called Parrish "an intolerant, anti-American zealot" who should be pressed to apologize.

"So far Martin's response to her brainless remarks has been tepid to say the least," said vice-president Gerry Nicholls.

"It's time the prime minister made it clear to the world that Parrish does not speak for Canadians."

Parrish at first denied Wednesday that she had made the remark, and asked media not to report it.

"I did become concerned that the issue was going to be me and ... the word (`idiots')," she said today. "And I just thought: 'Ugh. Darn. Here we go again.'

"Then I settled down and gave it some serious thought and said: 'No, I'm not going to back down from this.'"

Debate over Canadian participation in the U.S. plan to build a space-based missile shield promises to be hot this fall as the minority Liberal government grapples with a divided House of Commons.

Canadians should be concerned that missile defence could speed the global weapons race and spur rogue countries to design missiles that could breach such a shield, Parrish says.

She has been speaking on the issue with little media interest until now, she said.

"Suddenly, because there's one word in there that people find very exciting, I'm getting tons of coverage. It's a criticism of the media, if I may be so bold."

Paul Cellucci, the U.S. ambassador to Canada, told the CBC that Parrish is entitled to her opinion.

"Canada is a free country, people can express their opinions how they see fit," Cellucci said in Goose Bay, Nfld.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; canucklehead; carolynparrish; liberals
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To: Mike1973
I think you're quite right re some differences in attitudes. We sufer from megalomania while they nurse an inferiority complex. But in the end, I think, we'd come through for each other. In accordance with the inscription on the peace arch in Blaine, WA: Children of a Common Mother (I just drove by there recently). Like siblings, we quarrel and fight but in the end we stand united.

Down here, we simply hear much more of the anti-American sentiments than of pro-American statements. We love to be hated and friendly gestures don't make the news. Most Americans have never heard what the neighbours did for us in Gander in 2001. Or that Americans were so grateful that they started scholarships and school funds for Newfoundland villages.

Just like someone coming onto this thread and reading the anti-Canadian posts would think, geez, those yanks wouldn't move a finger if someone attacked Canada. But we both know it would be the contrary.
61 posted on 08/26/2004 10:41:54 PM PDT by drtom
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To: SB00
"Canada is a free country, people can express their opinions how they see fit," Cellucci said in Goose Bay, Nfld.

Keep telling yourself that....lol.

62 posted on 08/26/2004 10:45:05 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: MplsSteve
How 'bout we slap a 50% tariff on all incoming Canadian lumber for about a month? That'll teach these mouthy Canadians to STFU!

Yeah, that has all the makings of a real funny joke. You should quit your day job and become a comedian. Especially the language makes your explanation look so sincere and hilarious.

Nice backpeddling.
63 posted on 08/26/2004 10:50:06 PM PDT by drtom
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To: Mike1973

When Japanese troops landed in Alaska and invaded U.S. soil, Canada sent troops planes and ships to help chase them out. The only country to invade Canada was America. The last Canadian troops killed in a combat zone were killed by you guys in Afghanistan so cut the crap.


65 posted on 08/27/2004 12:01:56 AM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beeeeee Alberta bound)
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To: SB00
HA HA! At least idiots can learn. She's a .....Canadienne!
66 posted on 08/27/2004 12:06:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....DOWN TOTO! DOWN!)
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To: Mike1973

http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary040104.asp

You might be interested in this recent article about the U.S minor hockey team. Also,if you count our troops in Afghanistan and our naval ships in the Gulf, I guess we did lift at least one finger. You guys really need to get over this Parrish bitch, She hates us westerners more than she hates you folks. Every time she opens her big yap, us western conservatives gain more popularity.


67 posted on 08/27/2004 12:15:03 AM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beeeeee Alberta bound)
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To: albertabound
I'm looking back through web stories to see if I can find the article. It stayed in my memory because it was the first I had heard of widespread Anti-US raving in Canada, shortly following the war in Iraq.

At the time, I remember being surprised that Canadian sentiment had gone beyond neutrality and into condemnation. Also at this time I heard that our National Anthem was being booed at Hockey games in Canada. Thats when I started paying more attention. I was ticked off to no end to hear that because as far as I'm aware, Canada's anthem is not booed in the US.

Just off the top of my head I'm thinking this may have been Avril Laving (sp?) but not positive because I would probably have discounted that as being youthful boorishness and saying something for a reaction only.

I will keep looking though and I'll let you know what I find.
68 posted on 08/27/2004 6:03:29 AM PDT by libs_kma (Write congress to get out of UN and UNESCO - Again!)
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To: albertabound

You beat me to it. : )


69 posted on 08/27/2004 6:50:47 AM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: MplsSteve

My point is that your joke implies punishing all Canadians because of what our government does. If you have a beef with liberals, take it to the liberals.


70 posted on 08/27/2004 6:53:23 AM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: libs_kma; albertabound

I suspect you may be thinking of Alanis Morrisette and her little act at the Junos ... commenting on the censoring of artists. It might have been Avril too, theer are many up here who have too much to say. At any rate, why would one listen to what artists have to say about politics? Are they more knowledgable than their listeners?


71 posted on 08/27/2004 6:58:42 AM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: albertabound

"Please get your facts correct before posting."

Thank you for your numbers and I have no reason to doubt them. It is unfortunate that I truly don't recall the author of the poll numbers that I posted. Be that as it may, what I previously posted were public numbers that were being circulated at the time.

AND, yes, you can still stop by for a beer, just don't bring any of that strong stuff that you people from the North drink.......that stuff makes me sick and makes for a very short night. LOL


72 posted on 08/27/2004 7:53:53 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: Gator113

Good deal. Many of us are disgusted by the attitudes of some eastern Canadian political activists and we do not hold these politicians in high regard out here.


73 posted on 08/27/2004 8:14:16 AM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beeeeee Alberta bound)
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To: NorthOf45

I agree. And I think it was Alanis Morrisette that I had read about. Anyway, I dont want or mean to disparage all of Canada for the remarks and actions of Canadian liberals. You Canadian conservatives have it pretty rough up there to begin with.

What I take issue with is the pols and newspapers up North that want to put their 2 cents in where it doesnt belong. Case in point was when the Toronto Sun (Sun or Star? not sure what the name is) printed a column asking for Donald Rumsfeld's resignation. That was a big WTF?!?! moment.


74 posted on 08/27/2004 12:38:18 PM PDT by libs_kma (Write congress to get out of UN and UNESCO - Again!)
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Emailed letter to Parrish office

Honorable Madam,

As a Canadian trying to hold my head up high living in the United States, working very hard to undo the ever growing animosity between the two countries, you again have put your size tens into your mouth and lowered the bar soundly like the backwoods person you appear to be..

You have a responsibility Madam to treat your office with respect as those who voted you in trusted you to do.

You are creating more and more problems between Canada and the United States and rather than relieving yourself of your hatred, you are paving the path to many jokes about you personally down the line.

I trust your term will be short-lived and the diplomats can get back to mending the fences you have so stupidly broken down.

I know for a fact many of my personal friends - rather than the "idiots" you describe have higher IQ's and educational degrees than you can ever hope to achieve.

In disgust,


75 posted on 08/27/2004 2:48:13 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: All

Sorry - the e-mail addy is:

parric@parl.gc.ca


76 posted on 08/27/2004 3:02:05 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: albertabound

I took me long enough. I read that article a few times and something really bothered me about it. Well, I happen to check the date and guess what?

It was written on Apr 1. Well April Fools on me.


77 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:11 AM PDT by Mike1973
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