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Kerry defends anti-war stand
Sun-Herald ^ | August 25, 2004 | AP

Posted on 08/25/2004 1:23:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

PHILADELPHIA - Democrat John Kerry defended his Vietnam War record Tuesday night from accusations that he didn't deserve his medals and invited voters to judge his 1970s anti-war activism as an indication of the "kind of president I'm going to be."

Kerry, speaking at a fund-raiser that the campaign said raised $1.7 million for the Democratic Party, said criticism of his decorated service in Vietnam has "become so petty it's almost pathetic in a way."

Kerry defended his anti-war activism as "an act of conscience."

"You can judge my character, incidentally, by that," he said. "Because when the time for moral crisis existed in this country, I wasn't taking care of myself, I was taking care of public policy. You may not have agreed with me, but I stood up and was counted and that's the kind of president I'm going to be."

Kerry also struck back at people who criticize him for trying to glorify only four months of service in Vietnam.

"I was there longer than that, number one," he said. "Number two, I served two tours. Number three, they thought enough of my service to make me aide to an admiral."

Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, introducing Kerry at the fund-raiser, said by watching the group's ads, "you'd think this was a 1962 or a 1976 presidential election."

"If you want this election to be decided on the Vietnam War, then I ask you one question: Who served this country better during the Vietnam War, John Kerry or George Bush?" Rendell said.

Bush served stateside in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam war, and did not see combat. Democrats have questioned whether he always showed up for duty.

During a speech earlier Tuesday at Cooper Union in New York, Kerry sought to turn the campaign debate to issues on which he thinks he can win - and away from questions about his Vietnam service. He also tried to paint Bush as the candidate who has been dishonest.

"My duty, as I understand it, is to be a president and commander in chief who finds the truth and tells the truth instead of misleading the American people," Kerry said to 850 invited supporters in the city where Republicans will nominate Bush for re-election next week. "My duty is to be a president who tells the truth instead of hiding behind front groups, saying anything and doing anything to avoid the real issues that matter like jobs, health care and the war in Iraq."

Kerry spoke a day after Bush criticized attack ads run by outside groups - known as 527s because of an IRS code provision - including the commercials being aired by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Kerry has said the veterans group is a front for the president's re-election campaign. The Bush campaign denies any coordination.

Kerry's campaign will go on the air in Nevada, New Mexico and Pennsylvania on Wednesday with a commercial responding to a new ad there by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

"The Bush campaign and its allies have turned to the tactics of fear and smear because they can't talk about jobs, health care, energy independence and rebuilding our alliances," Kerry said.

Bush spokesman Steve Schmidt said Kerry's attempt to declare himself a victim of negative ads is "stunning hypocrisy." He said, "His campaign has hid behind and benefited from $63 million in attack ads by shadowy 527 groups."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiwar; kerry; sbvt; senatetestimony; veterans; vets; vietnam; vvaw
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry also struck back at people who criticize him for trying to glorify only four months of service in Vietnam.

"I was there longer than that, number one," he said. "Number two, I served two tours. Number three, they thought enough of my service to make me aide to an admiral."

More parsing of the truth (and lies) - period.

  1. Yeah John, you spent 'more' than 4 months 'in country' - 4 months and ONE WEEK.
  2. Two Tours? Uh-huh, 'technically' correct. BUT your 1st tour aboard the USS Griddley was ONLY for 5 months, not exactly a full tour. So in total your 'two tours' consisted of a tad more than NINE months, which was still 3 months shorter than the Army's 12 month tour and 4 months short of the Marines 13 month tour!
  3. And sorry Johnny Nam, but you know you got the Admiral's Aide gig solely because of WHO your dad was and where he worked - the US State Dept.
  4. And speaking of the Admiral's Aide gig, you neglected to mention that you almost IMMEDIATELY requested that the Admiral grant you an early release from the Navy, which you were granted, so you could "run for congress" - which you never did!

41 posted on 08/25/2004 5:51:01 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: The Great Yazoo
........ and having served on a missile cruiser.

Yes. Cruising around Australia and spending about 5 weeks off Vietnam while W. was training in a jet fighter.

42 posted on 08/25/2004 5:53:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Condor51

Bump!


43 posted on 08/25/2004 5:53:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; Bethbg79; ...
"My duty is to be a president who tells the truth instead of hiding behind front groups,

Note to kerry, better start telling the truth or you may be struck by lightening.


44 posted on 08/25/2004 6:40:33 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry and the RATs can't stand facts or truth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I e-mailed my reply (edited slightly) to Gov. Rendell at http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html
45 posted on 08/25/2004 6:46:22 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense
arabnews Wednesday, 25, August, 2004



People can get
Kerry's real book here,
right now,
online FREE!!

From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I

PART II
PART III

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!
Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf



46 posted on 08/25/2004 7:46:21 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If we judge Kerry by his '70s' activism, we should assume a Kerry administration will listen attentively to those with whom he agrees without any verification of their information or background, like he did with his hearings on Vietnam atrocities. Based on Kerry's anti-war activism, George Soros would have a field day in a Kerry administration.


47 posted on 08/25/2004 10:27:13 AM PDT by yoswif
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To: yoswif

Exactly! They just want him to plant his butt in the Oval Office and let them do all the work.


48 posted on 08/25/2004 10:37:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, introducing Kerry at the fund-raiser, said by watching the group's ads, "you'd think this was a 1962 or a 1976 presidential election."

And who was elected president in 1962, Rendell?

Too funny...The Dems can't even keep their election history straight.

49 posted on 08/25/2004 10:41:04 AM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: palmer
The MSM is there to carry his water to "debunk" any charges against him and "discredit" his critics.

Only to get pummelled by body blows from the blogsphere. The MSM is facing a choice this election - tell at least part of the story, or stand by yet another Dem liar and have what is left of their credibility completely obliterated. I am sensing from at least part of the MSM a hesitation to go the latter route, for a candidate that they are now realizing simply isn't fit for the office and who holds no core views worthy of supporting, who is in it only for his own ego and his own power (sound familiar?)

What the MSM is now doing is exploring just how much lying they can get away with, after their initial formulatic damage control was savaged.

50 posted on 08/25/2004 10:45:32 AM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: palmer
He can and he will. The MSM is there to carry his water to "debunk" any charges against him and "discredit" his critics. Obviously he will lose the votes of anyone who realizes the truth, but that's a calculated loss. The critical swing voters want a cool tough guy who stands up against "unfair" attacks against him. So far he is playing that role pretty well.

It's disgusting, isn't it? It must be nice to have the media do your dirty work for you. I noticed that Dole told Kerry in their phone conversation about how Kerry had the media on his side, but oddly enough, the comment never made any of the stories about the phone conversation!

51 posted on 08/25/2004 11:09:39 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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