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Attorney Works for Bush, Anti-Kerry Group
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Posted on 08/24/2004 5:21:14 PM PDT by gattaca

Attorney Works for Bush, Anti-Kerry Group

32 minutes ago

By SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A lawyer for President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election campaign disclosed Tuesday that he has been providing legal advice for a veterans group that is challenging Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites)'s account of his Vietnam War service.

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Benjamin Ginsberg's acknowledgment marks the second time in days that an individual associated with the Bush-Cheney campaign has been connected to the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which Kerry accuses of being a front for the Republican incumbent's re-election effort.

The Bush campaign and the veterans' group say there is no coordination.

The group "came to me and said, 'We have a point of view we want to get into the First Amendment debate right now. There's a new law. It's very complicated. We want to comply with the law, will you keep us in the bounds of the law?'" Ginsberg said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I said yes, absolutely, as I would do for anyone."

Ginsberg said he never told the Bush campaign what he discussed with the group, or vice versa, and doesn't advise the group on ad strategies.

"They have legal questions and when they have legal questions I answer them," Ginsberg said. He said he had not yet decided whether to charge the Swift Boat Veterans a fee for his work.

Kerry's presidential campaign last week filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission (news - web sites) accusing the Bush campaign and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth of illegally coordinating the group's ads. The ads allege Kerry has lied about his decorated Vietnam War service; the group's accounts in a television ad have been disputed by Navy records and veterans who served on Kerry's boat.

"It's another piece of the mounting evidence of the ties between the Bush campaign and this group," Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton said of Ginsberg's admission. "The longer President Bush waits to specifically condemn this smear, the more it looks like his campaign is behind it."

On Saturday, retired Air Force Col. Ken Cordier resigned as a member of the Bush campaign's veterans' steering committee after it was learned that he appeared in the Swift Boat veterans' commercial.

Kerry, meanwhile, is the subject of complaints by the Bush campaign and the Republican National Committee (news - web sites) accusing his campaign of illegally coordinating anti-Bush ads with soft-money groups on the Democratic side, allegations he and the groups deny.

Ginsberg also represented the Bush campaign in 2000 and became a prominent figure during the Florida recount.

He also served as counsel to the RNC in its unsuccessful lawsuit seeking to overturn the nation's campaign finance law, which banned the national party committees from collecting corporate, union and unlimited donations known as soft money and imposed stricter rules on coordination involving parties, candidates and interest groups.

Ginsberg contends that by offering legal advice to both the Bush campaign and the Swift Boat group, he has done nothing different than other election lawyers in Washington, including attorneys for Kerry and the Democratic National Committee (news - web sites) who have also advised soft-money groups. Representing campaigns, parties and outside groups simultaneously is legal and allowed under the law and by the FEC, he said.

"The truth is there is only a handful of lawyers who live and breathe this law. And so because the coordination rules do not include legal services among the prohibited coordinated activities, we provide legal service," Ginsberg said.

Larry Noble, head of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics campaign watchdog group and former FEC general counsel, said it's true that serving as a lawyer for both a campaign and a soft-money group isn't considered automatic evidence of coordination under commission rules, but added that it doesn't mean the FEC won't look at it.

"I think there's a valid question about when you're talking about strictly legal advice and when you're talking about policy issues and strategic issues," Noble said. "It's fair to ask what the advice is about."

Joe Sandler, a lawyer for the DNC and a group running anti-Bush ads, MoveOn.org, said there is nothing wrong with serving in both roles at once.

In addition to the FEC's coordination rules, attorneys are ethically bound to maintain attorney-client confidentiality, Sandler said. They could lose their law license if they violate that, he said


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1 posted on 08/24/2004 5:21:14 PM PDT by gattaca
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To: gattaca

Is anyone in the lamestream media going to report that Kerry has hired a MoveOn.Org staffer with full knowledge of that staffer's previous position?


2 posted on 08/24/2004 5:23:02 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: gattaca

How many web gurus from MoveOn.Org has the Kerry campaign hired?


3 posted on 08/24/2004 5:23:12 PM PDT by IGOTMINE ("By God, I pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God I do.")
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To: gattaca

Well, that's the smoking gun, all right. Kerry and Edwards should talk about nothing else til election day. Also, put it in the headlines of the Times and Post so all the undecideds will be won over.


4 posted on 08/24/2004 5:23:18 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: gattaca
And how many lawyers associated with the DNC give advice to MoveON, The Sierra Club, Greenpeas, etc. etc. etc?

More MSM cover for Kerry here folks.

5 posted on 08/24/2004 5:23:41 PM PDT by narby (Bush: Genuine F-102 Fighter Jock)
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OMG! THIS WILL DEVASTATE THE SWIFT VETS AND BUSH!!! IT WILL RUN FRONT PAGE ON EVERY PAPER TOMORROW!!!

(meanwhile the revolving door of kerry's camp and moveon.org / ACT/ etc. will be swept under the rug)


6 posted on 08/24/2004 5:24:04 PM PDT by flashbunny (Kerry helped move jobs to china - http://www.flashbunny.org/commentary/kerryoutsourced.html)
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To: Peach

I was thinking the same thing...


7 posted on 08/24/2004 5:24:08 PM PDT by gattaca (Great things can be accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit. Ronald Reagan)
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To: gattaca

This is a non-story.


8 posted on 08/24/2004 5:24:24 PM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: narby

SO WHAT! Kerry has been violating the law for 11 months. What is good for the trator goose...well, 'nuf said.


9 posted on 08/24/2004 5:24:39 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider ((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))
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To: gattaca

> ... the coordination rules do not include legal
> services among the prohibited coordinated activities ...

Which doesn't stop the AP from inventing a coordination
story.


10 posted on 08/24/2004 5:24:56 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: gattaca

So?


11 posted on 08/24/2004 5:25:13 PM PDT by steplock
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Major Garrett reported that 17 people were connected with a Dem 527 and the Kerry Edwards campaign. Some went one way, from K/E to 527, some went the other, from 527 to K/E.


12 posted on 08/24/2004 5:25:26 PM PDT by dawn53
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13 posted on 08/24/2004 5:25:29 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: gattaca

"Joe Sandler, a lawyer for the DNC and a group running anti-Bush ads, MoveOn.org, said there is nothing wrong with serving in both roles at once."

Just remember, this statement will never be mentioned by the main stream media, as they push the headline of this piece only!


14 posted on 08/24/2004 5:25:47 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: gattaca
Joe Sandler, a lawyer for the DNC and a group running anti-Bush ads, MoveOn.org, said there is nothing wrong with serving in both roles at once.

Of course, this tidbit is buried at the bottom of the article.

15 posted on 08/24/2004 5:26:01 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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Cheese and rice! He's a freakin' lawyer. He gave advice to two groups. It's like how Michael Jackson's attorney was also Scott Peterson's attorney. That doesn't mean Michael killed Laci.

I'll bet you could find a waiter who served food to members of each group.

Meanwhile, John Kerry's WIFE is handing out "Asses of Evil" buttons to Moveon.org freaks and nobody says boo.


16 posted on 08/24/2004 5:26:18 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: gattaca
"It's another piece of the mounting evidence of the ties between the Bush campaign and this group," Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton said of Ginsberg's admission. "The longer President Bush waits to specifically condemn this smear, the more it looks like his campaign is behind it."

And further down...

Joe Sandler, a lawyer for the DNC and a group running anti-Bush ads, MoveOn.org, said there is nothing wrong with serving in both roles at once.

They've not rehearsed their talking points enough. They're contradicting each other.

17 posted on 08/24/2004 5:26:23 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: gattaca

>>"It's fair to ask what the advice is about." <<

It's fair to say that information is confidential.


18 posted on 08/24/2004 5:27:28 PM PDT by 1L
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To: gattaca

Print out and wear as a Campaign Button or go HERE to print.

19 posted on 08/24/2004 5:27:43 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: gattaca
Federal Election Commission Chairman Defends Swift Boat Ads
20 posted on 08/24/2004 5:28:00 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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