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Posted on 08/24/2004 1:40:58 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
FOX News reported this today:
And questions keep coming. For example, Kerry recieved a Purple Heart for wounds suffered on December 2, 1968. But in Kerry's own journal, written 9 days later, he writes he and his crew, "hadn't been shot at yet." Kerry's campaign has said it is possible his first Purple Heart was awarded for unintentionally self-inflicted wounds.
Sounds like some sort of admission to me.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
"At the end of the day, the SBVT charges will be generally accepted as true, and it will not significantly dent Kerry's support in the polls."
I've been saying the same thing. Everyone knew Bill Clinton was a hound before the '92 election, but it didn't matter.
Be prepared for some nastygrams for being the bearer of this bad news.
Aaaaah, an astute observer:-)
Yep, Brinkley will 'discover' that Kerry squared off against the entire 3rd NVA Division, led by Gen Giap himself!
"Upon receiving fire from a river bank, LtJG Kerry beached his boat, grabbed an M-60 and three ten bandoleers of ammo, ran into the jungle under intense enemy fire and SINGLE-HANDEDLY killed 267 743 NVA regulars. AND that Kerry had Gen Giap 'in his sights' but ran out of the ammo in his first bandoleer, and by the time he reloaded Giap had scooted off into the bush like a scarred bunny. HOWEVER, ignoring his own safety LtJG Kerry stood there firing, the enemy droppoing like flies. AND had Kerry not run out of ammo at first, Giap would have been dead and LtJG Kerry would have ENDED the WAR all by himself right then and there!"
Cries for monuments and statutes of LtJG Kerry will come from the masses and that they immediately be erected all over DC to honor this great hero. Greater even than George Washington. President Kerry, nah --- he should be KING?!?
~~kerry mocking off~~
Johnny will use the " what is the definition of is" defense and the mind dead morons of this country will buy it hook line and sinker.
Kerry just bought the farm...
!!!!!!
Now that's pretty damn interesting!
I thought the shrapnel still in his leg had been confirmed by medical reports. I'm going to have to go look for that now.
Qwinn
Bob Dole sustained a reletively minor injury from his own grenade in a combat situation. Because he was in combat, he legitimately received a Purple Heart for this injury.
REQUIRED MAX CLELAND DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEEDING STATEMENT IS NOT INTENDED TO IMPUGN MAX CLELAND'S PATRIOTISM OR TO IN ANY WAY DENIGRATE THE SACRIFICES HE MADE FOR HIS COUNTRY.
Hugh ping.
Oh, man. You are good!
Because you know the 'Rats are going to start bellowing about how poor John F'n still carries the shrapnel to this day, blah, blah, blah. It is the only defense they have left.
Unless he's gay, of course. That was worth five points in the polls for Jim McGreevey.
I beleive you are mistaken. Isn't Dole's injury from being shot by Italian/German forces?
Actually, he threw ribbons. . .
No, it was medals, but they were someone else's medals.
No, wait, he threw his medals.
No, it was ribbons, but medals and ribbons are interchangeable.
Only for friendly-fire or self-inflicted wounds recieved in the HEAT OF BATTLE, not resulting from gross negligence. If you're pinned down by enemy fire and your grenade bounces off a tree and frags you, then maybe you can get a PH.
If you're not under enemy fire, as Kerry admitted in his journal, and you get some rice in your butt cheek from loitering too close to an exploding rice bin, that doesn't qualify.
Prior to being nearly killed by a machine gun, Bob Dole received a Purple Heart for a reletively minor grenade injury. Bob Dole has at least two Purple Hearts. I don't really know if he has any other decorations, because he does not really talk about them much.
Lemme correct your statement: 8 Simple words say it all:
John Kerry cannot be trusted with National Security.
No offense but - wrong. Kerry did not 'finish out his tour'.
Upon being reassigned stateside as an Admiral's Aide, Kerry almost immediately asked for an early release from the Navy - which was granted by the Admiral.
Kerry requested the early out so he could "run for congress", but he never did that. Like the rest of his 'military service' Kerry used the system for his personal advantage. And in effect, he obtained his early release under false pretenses.
Also, Kerry was not "in The Navy". Kerry enlisted in the Naval Reserve in 1966 for six years (to 72). So while he was aiding the enemy in 70 & 71 and giving false testimony before the Senate, Kerry was STILL a member of the military! That is a violation of the UCMJ and a gazillion federal laws.
Thank goodness we had John F'n Kerry standing fast against the dastardly homophobes!!!
Admittedly, character has been a non-issue of the left for a long time. As long as he's an effective leader -- more importantly, as long as I'm comfortable -- character in the White House doesn't matter.</sarcasm>
That's one key thing that my dad noticed about John Kerry - he figues the more someone talks about their heroism, the less likely they are to be an actual hero.
Our next door neighbor when I was growing up, who my father considered to be one of his closest friends, was a WW-II vet, and talked about his experiences in the Pacific Theater maybe twice in the 20 years my dad knew him.
I remember when I found out that he had been a soldier, when I was maybe 7 years old, and I asked him in my excited innocence "Did you really shoot Japanese soldiers??" Looking back at his response, a gruff "Yes" and a retreat into the house, I suspect he went inside and had a stiff drink to shake off the demons of guilt and horror.
My wife's great uncle, who fought in Europe, absolutely never talked about his combat experience as an infantry machine gunner - to the point where the younger members of the family were only vaguely aware of a rumor that he'd served - until "Saving Private Ryan" came out.
How about lying to receive an undeserved bronze or silver star?
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I don't believe this is true. IIRC, wounds received in the course of destroying enemy assets do qualify. If the rice was a legitimate enemy military asset, then the wound would qualify for a Purple Heart, even if it is unintentionally self-inflicted, unless it is the result of negligence.
Given the unpredictable nature of war, I would imagine the definition of what constitutes negligence for 19-year-olds carrying around hand grenades on a daily basis is fairly narrow.
An interesting question would be whether or not a bin of rice can be considered a military asset.
Was Kerry acting under orders when he destroyed it, or was he just horsing around?
Did the US Military have a policy of denying the enemy food?
Was it clear that this food was meant for the enemy, or was John F'n committing a war crime by denying food to the general population?
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