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It takes a Democrat to raise an issue: Zell Miller on Immigration
Project USA ^ | 23 August 2004 | Craig Nelsen

Posted on 08/23/2004 7:43:12 PM PDT by MegaSilver

With the selection of an old-line Democrat to give the keynote speech at the Republican national convention in New York at the end of the month, the chance of a convention floor fight over the immigration issue may have increased substantially despite the best efforts of the party establishment to suppress the issue.

"Republicans," reports Adam Nagourney in a front page article in Sunday's New York Times, "are pressing for a quick and quiet adoption of a platform to minimize dissent."

But on the immigration issue, which Nagourney cites as being of particular concern to Republicans, keynote speaker Senator Zell Miller of Georgia is a plain-spoken critic of current policies, and is a strong advocate of mainstream views.

If the senator echos the comments he made in his book, "A National Party No More" (see exerpt), in his keynote convention speech, he may end up forcing Republicans to adopt a winning position on immigration.

In his 2003 book, Senator Miller wrote:

"Two months after 9/11, New York Republican mayor Michael Bloomberg put out this lunatic statement: People who are undocumented do not have to worry about city government going to the federal government.

"Unbelievable! We should be doing just the opposite. Anyone here illegally should be put in jail, his or her property forfeited, and immediately deported. An existing federal law calls for heavy fines for employers who knowingly hire illegals, but it is ignored. It should be strictly enforced. In fact, the federal government should require all employers to verify U.S. citizenship or lawful presence for each job application by a telephone or central database maintained by U.S government."

With talk like that, Senator Miller could energize not just the 82 percent of Republicans who support tighter immigration policies, but he could end up helping Republicans make huge inroads with the 76 percent of Democrats and the 76 percent of Independents who also support tighter immigration policies (Pew).

Republican Party leadership, however, won't allow the party to adopt a popular position on immigration without a fight.

An activist from a state Al Gore barely lost in 2000 reports that Karl Rove's office has warned Republican congressional candidates off from the immigration issue at the risk of losing national party funding. And the Bush campaign, apparently, vetted every delegate to the national convention to ensure loyalty to the party line.

A week ago Sunday, in another front page article on the potential for a convention floor fight over immigration policy, Ralph Hallow, senior national correspondent for the Washington Times, correctly identified the forces splitting the Republican Party over immigration.

On one hand are the voters -- heck, let's call 'em the American people -- overwhelmingly opposed to amnesties for illegal aliens and so on. On the other hand, there are the corporate profiteers and their mouthpiece, The Wall Street Journal, which, as Mr. Hallow points out, "long has been calling for no restrictions on immigration. Its editorial page advocates making the United States a nation without borders to let the forces of supply and demand freely determine who enters seeking work."

The Republican convention could become a struggle for control of the party between the people and the special interests, and a Democratic senator from Georgia could help return control of the Republican Party back to the people and help make Republicans, well, more democratic.


+== TAKE POSITIVE ACTION ==+

I am very encouraged by reports that some state GOP parties are going to adopt, or have adopted, state party planks opposing amnesty for illegal aliens.

In other words, a few state party organizations are apparently willing to tell the Wall Street Journal and Karl Rove to go jump in a lake, and will side with the "88 percent of Americans who agree, and 68 percent who strongly agree, that Congress should pass a law requiring state and local government agencies to notify both the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS/ICE) and their local law-enforcement agency when they determine that a person is here illegally, or has presented a false identification document." RoperASW Poll, March 2003

You all -- Republicans, Democrats, and Independents -- can play an extremely important role in giving the people a voice at the Republican convention by calling your state GOP party and asking whether your state is planning to adopt an anti-amnesty plank before the convention. (And you can call your state's Democratic Party and your neighboring states' parties, too. Why not?)

Just click on the link below, and you'll be taken to a page with all the information you'll need to make the call(s) quickly and easily.

And then please email me with reports on the responses you received. The feedback I get from you will be crucial to the overall effort.

Please set aside just a few minutes to do this--it may be one of our most important action alerts ever:

State GOP offensive: http://projectusa.org/activism/gop/state_map.html


+== QUOTE OF THE WEEK ==+

Someday our grandchildren are going to reap the results of this madness and wonder what in the world this nation and its leaders were thinking.

Senator Zell Miller on current immigration policy
"A National Party No More" (2003)


+== EMAIL OF THE WEEK ==+

Although I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate, I would be gratified to see Rep. Tom Tancredo receive a lot of votes. I am very impressed with Rep. Tancredo and his efforts on behalf of immigration reform. On a practical level, votes for Tancredo will send a message to Congress, and he deserves all the help he can get.

Your poll [deactivated] should probably have another "no" slot that says "I'm too afraid of Bush to vote for anyone but the Dem nominee." The "I never vote for Republicans" does not apply to me, even though I am a Democrat.

David Holzman
Motorlegends.com
member, Massachusetts Coalition for Immigration Reform


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplank; issues; zellmiller; zigzagzell

1 posted on 08/23/2004 7:43:14 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
the immigration issue may have increased substantially despite the best efforts of the party establishment to suppress the issue.

Why would they want to suppress an issue that's of such importance to majority of the electorate, especially since that majority sides against nearly every Democrat (aside from Zell) in sight?

2 posted on 08/23/2004 7:48:23 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Why would they want to suppress an issue that's of such importance to majority of the electorate

Republicans have many corporate special interests. To keep the cash flowing, they have to suppress the issue, lest the public demand an end to the continuation of slave labor.

3 posted on 08/23/2004 8:04:45 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver

An activist from a state Al Gore barely lost in 2000 reports that Karl Rove's office has warned Republican congressional candidates off from the immigration issue at the risk of losing national party funding


Yes. Jorge does love his cheap labor and open borders. All of my homeboy politicians and the Whitehouse have heard from me on the issue many times. I WILL NOT VOTE for anyone that supports this madness, I don't care who they are. I'm voting for the only candidate who will do something about it. Until we hold them accountable, nothing will be done. Why should they do anything if we'll vote for them anyway? Enough is enough.

Whitehouse Comment Lines:

202-456-6213 and 202-456-1111

Senate and HOuse:

800-648-3516

Republican Nat'l Committee:

202-863-8500


4 posted on 08/23/2004 9:19:27 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: MegaSilver; gubamyster
On one hand are the voters -- heck, let's call 'em the American people -- overwhelmingly opposed to amnesties for illegal aliens and so on.

... by the people, for the people ... heck, let's call 'em the American people.

5 posted on 08/23/2004 9:21:10 PM PDT by LNewman
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6 posted on 08/23/2004 11:10:39 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Anyone who supports illegal aliens is corrupt, mentally unbalanced, hates this country, wantsto turn this into a Third World Country, or is a sleeper agent. There is not one single reason why illegal aliens are good for this country. All are criminals, many are violent pedohiles or here to infiltrate this country.


7 posted on 08/24/2004 3:07:20 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: MegaSilver
"Anyone here illegally should be put in jail, his or her property forfeited, and immediately deported. An existing federal law calls for heavy fines for employers who knowingly hire illegals, but it is ignored. It should be strictly enforced. In fact, the federal government should require all employers to verify U.S. citizenship or lawful presence for each job application by a telephone or central database maintained by U.S government."

Right is right, wrong is wrong. If Miller addresses this before convention delegates and Bush still refuses to acknowledge Americans' wishes - I'll write in Tancredo and Miller with glee.

8 posted on 08/24/2004 3:47:54 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Dante3

BUMP!!! what you said!

For their positions on open borders/non-enforcement, those "leaders" are as guilty as the financeers of the 19 hijackers.


9 posted on 08/24/2004 3:50:37 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: gubamyster
"Republican Party leadership, however, won't allow the party to adopt a popular position on immigration without a fight."

It's time to "retire" the current party leadership then charge as the felon traitors they are.

10 posted on 08/24/2004 3:55:26 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: MegaSilver

Rove and his ilk are traitors.


11 posted on 08/24/2004 6:02:08 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

I've decided that I am a one Issue voter.

That issue is the Rule of Law.

The law says it is a felony to sneak across our borders. Jorge Delano Bush says 'Hey Amigo, give em a free pass. We got plenty of free stuff to hand out to em. Buck up ole chap we'll give you a wrap around...'


12 posted on 08/24/2004 6:18:45 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time)
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To: MegaSilver

Good find, thanks.

I hope Zell Miller does indeed open some eyes.


13 posted on 08/24/2004 6:31:05 AM PDT by HiJinx (Piper's Proud Poppa)
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To: Area51

I would have to agree.


14 posted on 08/24/2004 7:17:47 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: azhenfud

You have swerved into the truth, bump


15 posted on 08/24/2004 7:30:54 AM PDT by junta
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To: Area51
Gotta' be crystal clear on this - it's only a misdemeanor to sneak into our country; it's a felony when you do it after being deported, smuggle others in or come back after being convicted of a felony.

It should be a felony to invade our country. That would free citizens to repel it by means readily available to them without fear of prosecution. And that would go a long way toward discouraging invasion attempts.

16 posted on 08/24/2004 8:18:16 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.fairus.org/)
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To: Area51
I've decided that I am a one Issue voter.

That issue is the Rule of Law.

The law says it is a felony to sneak across our borders. Jorge Delano Bush says 'Hey Amigo, give em a free pass. We got plenty of free stuff to hand out to em. Buck up ole chap we'll give you a wrap around...'

It's not just a single issue.

Immigration policy directly and heavily affects nearly every other issue: culture, morality, economics, fraternity, and national security.

Culture and fraternity, because mass immigration has a tendency to invite fifth-column enclaves.

Morality, because new immigrants tend to be more concerned with survival and less concerned with the fabric of their new society. Hence they will vote for the candidates who will lift them up economically in spite of their loose morals (i.e., the Democratic Party). And they will tend to be less concerned than the local population over issues such as homosexual marriage.

Economics: in today's industrial-commercial economy, when so many of the immigrants are of the third-world there's a negative effect on local wages and a "brain drain" which keeps their own country from developing further.

And of course national security, because we keep allowing Muslims into our country to form the most dangerous fifth column around.

17 posted on 08/24/2004 11:58:46 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: gubamyster
Karl Rove's office has warned Republican congressional candidates off from the immigration issue at the risk of losing national party funding

 

Any other reason needed to dispise the GOP?
Party before country ALWAYS. They think THE PARTY is the country.

I



18 posted on 08/24/2004 4:01:23 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: HiJinx
I hope Zell Miller does indeed open some eyes.

To bad Zell Miller is as old as he is. He could have made a good run for the White House.

Or maybe he's just now wiseing up to this issue.

19 posted on 08/24/2004 8:05:08 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-sa)
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To: MegaSilver

Attention open borders/traders: Zell Miller is now officially a communist.


20 posted on 08/29/2004 8:23:31 PM PDT by sixmil
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