Posted on 08/23/2004 1:52:38 PM PDT by ambrose
Bush urges Kerry to condemn attack ads President denounces ads in general
CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN) -- President Bush on Monday called for the so-called 527 groups to stop airing political ads, but he did not directly condemn commercials by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that have attacked Sen. John Kerry's war record.
Speaking to reporters at his Texas ranch, Bush said he has repeatedly condemned 527 ads. These groups are named for the federal provision that makes such organizations tax exempt and allows them to accept unlimited donations.
The groups should "stop all of it -- that means that ad [the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth spot], every ad," Bush said.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Did you catch a few of them: "Our ads are OK because they tell the truth." YEAH... sure... anything you say!
Link isn't working, hope it's cause donations are pouring in.
Where are the POLLS?
Have you noticed the ABSENCE of polls? The news media doesn't want to hear the American public's opinion on the Swift Boat Vets ad.
The New Soldier by John Kerry and Vietnam Veterans Against the War
FREE Download of The New Soldier by John Kerry
and and Vietnam Veterans Against the War
Print and distibute the book that John Kerry "forgets" to mention!
The one book he refuses to bring up.
"honor" John Kerry
Help America know what a "hero" he was at the Winter Soldier
scam he and Jane Fonda pulled on the USA when he came home.
Make sure Kerry "fans" get their copy!
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf
"Phony Vietnam veterans alleged in books
Guenter Lewy's 1978 book America in Vietnam (pages 316-317) and B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley's Stolen Valor (Verity Press, Inc., Dallas, Texas)(pages 113, 131-137) contain similar information about alleged flaws in Lane's book. Neither book, however, refutes any of the testimony given during the Winter Soldier Investigation.
Lawyer and leftist activist Mark Lane was one of the organizers of Winter Soldier. In 1970, Lane had published a book called Conversations With Americans purporting to be interviews with Vietnam veterans about war crimes, containing Vietnam tales of atrocities. Reporter Neil Sheehan showed some interviewed in Lane's book had never served in Vietnam and others had not been in the situations they described. Lane admitted he did not check military records, as confirmation of details was not relevant. Lane later confirmed these militarty records.
The following are often falsely listed as being participants in Winter Soldier, but were actually in Lane's book instead. This confusion is probably due to Stolen Valor having an explanation of Lane's history within the section on Winter Soldier.
Chuck Onan, stock room clerk in Beaufort, S.C.
Michael Schneider, deserted in Europe and deserted again in the USA.
Terry Whitmore, was in an unpopulated area of Vietnam.
Garry Gianninoto, medical corpsman at battalion headquarters.
VVAW leader and Winter Soldier co-organizer Al Hubbard lied about being an officer, and sustaining war injuries - but he never testified at Winter Soldier .
According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in one documented case, medals and honors."
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm
By asking Kerry to also condemn attack ads the President IS exposing them for the hypocrites they are--and, he's doing it as a gentleman and a leader, not a whiner and a coward like Kerry, et al.
Exactly! Here was an opportunity to criticize all ads, and state that the Dem 527s spent over 65 million against Bush... He didn't point that out, allowing for BS claims like the front page of MSNBC "Bush Calls for Halt to Swift-Boat Ads"... He didn't specifically state that! What BS...
Now Bush's condemnation of the 527s makes sense.
Bush is going to have a long wait for Kerry to denounce the 527 ads . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . a very, VERY, VERY long wait.
If you do away with 527s, the media will just air the filth from these liberals for free.
If they could stop SBvets from airing TV commercials, what is to stop them from shutting down swiftvets.com? They have the ad playing over there and the website can be publicized by bumper stickers, billboards, word of mouth...how will they be able to shut down all free speech?
I think he did that quite well. sKerry got nothing more than what the President has said before and now has to do the same or a) shut up, b) continue showing what a hypocrite and nancy he is.
Of course this is what they will say, they are Dims and lying is truth. They don't even know what the truth is anymore. Anything that is against Bush is truth to them. I suspect the FEC will not do much of anything to stop any of the 527s this year, so we're in for a real rough ride.
I think it's funny that the Dims and DUmmies keep threatening to whip out the "Bush AWOL" theme if Bush doesn't shut down the Swift Vets. What? As if they haven't been drumming slander against Bush forever already?
What have we seen so far from these "truth" 527s? Bush AWOL. Bush cokehead. Bush secret abortion. Bush MIHOP (made it happen on purpose) 9/11. Bush alcoholic. Bush idiot. Bush rescued bin Ladens. Bush crazed-oilman imperialist. Bush blood-for-oil. Bush repressing women. Bush theocracy. Bush squanders world goodwill. And of course, the ubiquitous Bush worse than Hitler.
I can't think of any kind of slander or libel the Dim 527s haven't already supported...well I haven't heard Bush is gay yet. Of course that would be a compliment on their side.
Edwards- "We need a president with the strength and integrity to say when something is wrong. Instead of hiding behind a front group, he needs to take responsibility and demand that the ad come off the air."
Hey John boy...
A) The President said they are wrong for the system.
B) Why have you and Botox b!tch boy not called for an end to moveon.org ads (as a matter of fact, Kerry's wife has funded them {She campaigns for you} and your campaign and the DNC have now been busted for coordinating with them.)
C) The President can't "demand" anything of the groups. The Office of President is NOT a DICTATORSHIP!
It seems that you and FLIP FLOP think that the office comes with unlimited biased power. GET A LIFE LENIN JR.!
What about the Swift Vets, can't they be proud of their records as well? Do they not have freedom of speech to state their position. 527 groups are mostly a result of the Campaign Finance Reform Act, which Bush signed, saying that he hoped the Courts would overturn the unconstitutional parts. They didn't. Still if his position then was parts of CFR were a violation of the Constitution, why could he not stand up for the first amendment rights of the Swift Vets to make their case.
As with his stated stance on the AW ban, this statement helped the President with no one who was going to vote against him, and may have hurt him with some who were going to vote for him, or at least were leaning that way.
I'm disappointed that he would not stand up to the MSM and defend the rights of the vets. They have after all earned their right to speak at least as much as John Kerry has. Their right could be defended without agreeing or disagreeing with them. I'd have liked to see him disassociate himself from the Swift Vet statements (if he felt he must), but at the same time defend the right of the vets to make them. I thought that's what "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States" in his oath of office meant.
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Needs to be repeated.
And where is John McCain???????
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