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YES, THE LEFT QUESTIONED BOB DOLE'S MEDALS IN 1996
NRO - The Kerry Spot ^ | August 23, 2004 | jim geraghty

Posted on 08/23/2004 6:35:15 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Let's not hear any more talk about how high-minded the left was about Bob Dole and his medals eight years ago. The Nation argued that Bob Dole got his first Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound. Robert Ellis, who, like Dole 10th Mountain Division in World War II, sought to debunk the "myth" of Dole's heroism:

The truth about Dole's war record is considerably less than awe-inspiring. Yet the myth endures, and with the candidate running on the contrast between his and Clinton's military record, his campaign isn't eager to give a more accurate account. Dole, at the behest of his handlers, is less reticent about his service than in the past, but he mainly speaks about his wound and rehabilitation. He has passed up several opportunities to correct the exaggerated versions in biographies, and in the case of his self-wounding has even approved a sanitized account in which his maladroitly hurled grenade goes unnoted. Journalists continue to portray him as a hero, winner of two Bronze Stars. Joe Klein, for example, writes in Newsweek that Dole knows "what guns do. He also knows what politicians do, which is rarely anything quite so dramatic as leading an army into battle." Such attempts to make political capital out of Dole's war service go beyond the respect due him for the role he played as a soldier with the 10th Mountain Division.

A presidential candidate's fellow veteran makes claims, charging the candidate wasn't the hero his party says he was? Unprecedented!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bobdole; mediabias; militaryrecord; robertellis
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Yep. The Left is high-minded and we're simply low-life scumbags if we question THEIR record. When it comes to double standards, liberal hypocrisy knows no bounds.


21 posted on 08/23/2004 6:55:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

He'll never forget when Truman ordered him into battle against the Krauts. . . . .


22 posted on 08/23/2004 6:56:05 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (When it's all said and done, someone starts another conversation.......)
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To: marty60

Remember the clip where Bob Dole fell into the audience? The media probably ran that 5,000 times.

I'm guessing if he had muttered "G-D SOB Knocked Me Down" we would have heard that clip a lot.


23 posted on 08/23/2004 6:56:25 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

During the 1996 cmpaign I had heard of this from my brother in law's father. He had served in 10th Mtn and said that Sen Dole was wounded by dropping a grenade. I asked himwhy would the Army isue citations and medals for such stupidity to a 20 year old shavetail with no political connections? He said that everyone in the Division had heard the story and gave no reason why the medals were given.


24 posted on 08/23/2004 6:59:35 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: TexasNative2000

What was IKE even doing in Europe? Everyone knows the Germans had NOTHING to do with Pearl Harbor! It was just a distraction to keep people from noticing that they couldn't get Tojo.


25 posted on 08/23/2004 6:59:51 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: saveliberty
We have the most ignorant lazy and stupid media in the history of the U.S. They have no idea how to rport stories truthfully. If they wanted practice their craft honorably,

1) They would always include skerry's Senate testimony

2)They would always mention that the "high campaign official" was in fact a Prisoner of War for 6 years that VOLUNTEERED for the Bush campaign.

3) Demand that skerry release the OFFICIAL records, not some campaign screed.

To repeat, the media in the United States is pathetically, unprofessional and deserves the Stalin/Goebbels award for best propaganda organization in America

26 posted on 08/23/2004 7:02:47 AM PDT by marty60
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Oh yes, he was the target of the lefties hate machine.


27 posted on 08/23/2004 7:05:57 AM PDT by marty60
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To: chilepepper
o Kerry and Hitler were both leaders of radical organizations willing to use violence to win.

Is the Navy really all that radical?

28 posted on 08/23/2004 7:08:56 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag is always required. No sarcasm is sufficiently obvious for some people.)
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To: marty60

I think that they do know how to report objectively but that there is in their minds a "higher purpose" in promoting Kerry. Lately, I think that the media has started to believe that they are in a bad Disney movie.


29 posted on 08/23/2004 7:11:28 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Onelifetogive

VVAW was pretty radical and considered political assasination even...


30 posted on 08/23/2004 7:11:56 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Let's not change the subject. We need to stay on target.
Kerry is running for commander and chief right now. Is he unfit? Will he release his military records? Shouldn't we know before we vote who is lying and who is not?
31 posted on 08/23/2004 7:13:46 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: chilepepper

Yes but you NEVER hear that skerry actually was a member of an org. that advocated Assasination. That's why he loves the art of character ASSASINATION.


32 posted on 08/23/2004 7:15:39 AM PDT by marty60
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To: chilepepper
Kerry and Hitler both liked men.
Hitler was hooked on speed, Kerry on Botox.
33 posted on 08/23/2004 7:21:35 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: chilepepper
Hitler got off on his own speeches. Check Kerry's pants.
34 posted on 08/23/2004 7:23:03 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Didn't the left also try to insinuate that George H Bush either committed atrocities or cowardice? Sidney Blumenthal might have been behing this. I recall a reference to some article or talking point accusing him of bailing out due to cowardice.
35 posted on 08/23/2004 7:27:34 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: marty60

4) The media should make Kerry answer: "When were you in Cambodia" and "What atrocities did you personally commit and what atrocities did you have personal knowledge about?"


36 posted on 08/23/2004 7:30:05 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: saveliberty
I think that they do know how to report objectively but that there is in their minds a "higher purpose" in promoting Kerry.

Someone in the Establishment Media is going to crack. There's too much juicy stuff on the Kerry side and Bush Bashing is strictly dullsville.

37 posted on 08/23/2004 7:32:33 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!


38 posted on 08/23/2004 7:33:18 AM PDT by marty60
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

You could be right. I think that another vulnerability is the Hillary camp.

If Kerry loses big, that is a bonus for her. Considering how much data she has collected, I think there is a lot of potential there. She hasn't had to do much as the SwiftVets have done it for her. Now she is going to head up a committee to look into the links to the GOP. She will find a way to blame the GOP while she smears Kerry.


39 posted on 08/23/2004 7:36:14 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Hacksaw
Didn't the left also try to insinuate that George H Bush either committed atrocities or cowardice?

I remember that as well. It was used in the '92 campaign as a way to counter the draft dodger charges against Slick.

The substance, such as it was, had to do with the circumstances under which G.H.W. Bush was shot down. There were insinuations that he machine gunned Americans in the water and bailed out too fast. Despicable lies. Trudeau in "Doonesbury" really played it up.

40 posted on 08/23/2004 7:36:34 AM PDT by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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