Posted on 08/22/2004 2:33:58 PM PDT by Willie Green
Other side of the same coin. My point is that the
people DOING the work are Indian. US-owned companies are the CLIENTS of WiPro, Tata, Infosys, etc.
Please re-read, reconsider the part of my post about
Mercedes and the Carolinas.
BTW at one firm I had worked at, one of the software
sales persons (who was from India) told me --in confidence -- that the Indian written software he
was required to peddle was "the worst piece of sh*t
he had ever seen."
Slightly off-topic, I recall reading (in the famous
"I can't remember where" article) that Tata is also
involved in heavy industry and also makes cars.
a) Can anyone confirm this?
b) How do the cars compare to others
1960's Japanese
early 1970's American
modern US
modern Japanese
Yugo
If US companies were truly concerned with the bottom
line alone, the executive vechicles would all be
used Yugos :-)
Tata do make cars that seem to resemble more the late 80s quality of JApanese cars -- close but no cookie. To believe what a salesperson says about techie stuff -- whether good or bad, is just plain wrong
You wrote:
"...To believe what a salesperson says about techie stuff -- whether good or bad, is just plain wrong"
I'm sorry. *I* was careless in my posting.
The salesman I refer to was referring to his own
company's products, while I was working at the
very same company. That makes a difference,
don't cha know. :-)
Cheers!
An excerpt from your link read, in part:
"A review on the Tata Indica-2000 cannot be complete with this little story: the Japanese automobile industry in the '60s was best signified by cars dead on the roadside. "
Grammatically, it is correct to say either
cannot be complete with
or
cannot be complete without
However, common idiom is to use 'without'.
Obvious flames, trolls, cheap shots, etc.
are tastefully and politefully declined.
So when do US executives start buying these for
their corporate fleets to save money?
"...No more so than when US-owned companies used SAP or BAAN or when European-owned companies used American s/w or Accenture"
Look for my earlier postings on this issue.
I explicitly compared to European companies
outsourcing to US. :-)
Please, re-read and then tell me what you think.
Cheers!
Assuming that you are asking about Dr. Agarwal's recent discovery and not Ramanujan's body of work, I cannot think of any commercial impact except potentially to a specialized company like RSA.
RSA is a company built around the idea that factoring is hard; approaches to factoring often involve determining if various numbers are prime.
So, yes, it could potentially have some commercial impact (most likely negative, though), though I don't believe that anyone has done anything yet that would have impact on RSA.
There are also potential (very low likelihood) national security implications to the extent that any of our crypto systems might also be weakened -- but this is not so likely since excellent probabilistic primality tests already existed, such as Rabin-Miller.
But it is a good result, one that people have looked a long time for. It's a fundamental result, so something else could be built on top of it that could have a big impact.
You wrote:
"RSA is a company built around the idea that factoring is hard; approaches to factoring often involve determining if various numbers are prime.
So, yes, it could potentially have some commercial impact (most likely negative, though), though I don't believe that anyone has done anything yet that would have impact on RSA.
There are also potential (very low likelihood) national security implications to the extent that any of our crypto systems might also be weakened -- but this is not so likely since excellent probabilistic primality tests already existed, such as Rabin-Miller."
That was 'xactly the area I had in mind. Thanks!
Oh, yes, I just got around to it.
[Asbestos suit on. Sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]
1) The first name of the author sure doesn't
sound like O'Brien. Comments?
2) Note the main source in the article is the
CEO of NeoIT which makes its money by
arranging outsourcing. Apparently they
are trying to drum up business by predicting
business.
Why not, there are some trying to drum up support for Kerry by "predicting" what the President will do.
And there are others who can clearly see that Bush and Kerry are marching to the same drummer.
They may be a little out of cadence, perhaps, but they share the same compass.
It sure is interesting how some old fashioned liberals such as Mayor Kock can not only see the difference between the two, they're voting for the President. Koch explained things best for people like him. He said that yes, he is a liberals, but he's a thinking liberal.
I guess that would explain the big difference between people like Koch and the die hard Patsies who are re-emerging from their bunkers for another election...Koch thinks.
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