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Obama Holds 41-Point Lead Over Keyes (THE FAT LADY SINGS!)
The Chicago Tribune ^ | August 22, 2004 | Bob Secter

Posted on 08/22/2004 1:47:44 PM PDT by quidnunc

Alan Keyes said it would be an uphill climb when he agreed this month to be the emergency candidate for Illinois Republicans in the U.S. Senate race, but he may not have realized just how steep the ascent will have to be.

The nation's first Senate contest featuring two major party African-American candidates is beginning in lopsided fashion, with nearly two-thirds of voters indicating support for Democrat Barack Obama and less than one-quarter backing Keyes, according to a new Tribune/WGN-TV poll.

The poll suggests that Keyes' candidacy could hurt other Republicans in local and legislative races. Nearly three in ten voters said they were less likely to back GOP candidates because of the way party leaders went about settling on Keyes as their candidate, though 59 percent said it would make no difference.

Although Keyes came late to the race, a sizable number of voters said they had heard of the former presidential candidate. However, more than twice as many said they viewed him with disfavor as said they viewed him favorably, the survey found.

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(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: countingchickens; keyes; tismanyaslip; twixtcupandthelip; unhatchedchickens
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What a shocker!

Why wouldn't people be flocking to the candidacy of someone who has come out in favor of slavery reperations and eliminating the popular election of U.S. senators?

< /SARCISM >

1 posted on 08/22/2004 1:47:44 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

KEyes probably won't win-but I know he will bring some conservative issues to the front.


2 posted on 08/22/2004 1:49:12 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: quidnunc

Here goes the media again..trying to crucify him.


4 posted on 08/22/2004 1:53:41 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: quidnunc
Popular election of Senators should end. They should be elected in the manner proscribed initially in the Constitution which gave more power to the states themselves. The House was supposed to be elected popularly, and then only serve their two years.

What we have now is a vast majority of Senators who are nothing but populists, serving in very powerful positions for seven years.

The founders had it right IMHO.

5 posted on 08/22/2004 1:56:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: quidnunc

Hey folks, think big picture, and remember who the audience is. We have a pub talking reperations, and he is talking reform. He won't win, but he will confuse the opposition.
Keyes is a very crafty fellow. He may open a few minds in ChiTown.


6 posted on 08/22/2004 1:58:13 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Kerry is Toast du Francai')
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To: Jeff Head

Good opinion. A 'mine too' bump!


7 posted on 08/22/2004 2:06:14 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: quidnunc

Well, this is quite an improvement.

Obama was up by 100 pts. before Keyes got into the race.


8 posted on 08/22/2004 2:06:56 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Eastbound

If I remember correctly, to this day there is some controversy about the ratification of that amendment.


9 posted on 08/22/2004 2:08:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: quidnunc
Now what?

So that means you probably won't waste your time posting on anymore Keyes threads?

The horse is dead right?

10 posted on 08/22/2004 2:11:57 PM PDT by Cincincinati Spiritus (Don't beat horses if you think they're dead; it's bad form and breaks the 11th commandment.)
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To: quidnunc

Popular election of senators is wrong... But so is slavery reparations.

I read what Keyes said on the subject and he was offering an alternative to reparations already proposed. It isn't one of his policies, it is one of his solutions to someone else's policies.

His goal is to demolish income taxes period.

But the media has been complicit in misconstruing Mr. Keyes statements to make him unpalatable to GOP voters.

And Senators are supposed to protect their states, and they can't do that if they must run for popular election. Oh, I don't think we'll ever go back to the way it used to be on that, but the debate should always be open because of the issue of state rights.


11 posted on 08/22/2004 2:30:16 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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" . . . and eliminating the popular election of U.S. senators?"

I understand the Founders wanted federal lawmakers to be under the tight control of the people through their state legislatures.

Do you think the 17th has worked more in favor of states' rights and the Citizens therein, or has it made the U.S. Senate more unresponsive to the will and wisdom of the state legislatures, creating an imbalance in federal government with a non-responsible, non-accountable power block with little or no input from the states directly?

Where is our 'republican form of government' we were promised?

12 posted on 08/22/2004 2:32:07 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: quidnunc
If the LibTrib says it's 40 points, I say it's 20. They will literally lie, cheat, and steal to see their annointed Obama into office.
13 posted on 08/22/2004 2:35:35 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: Jeff Head
FR has several noteworthy examinations of the amendment, Jeff. Here's a beginning link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37c0017d7e32.htm#1

14 posted on 08/22/2004 2:49:44 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: quidnunc
Well Keyes does have an uphill battle to say the least but I'm a believe that "you play the game until the end" and play it to the best of your ability and play to win. Although I disagree on Keyes on how he would do reparations, well there willalways be some disagreements, heck I diagree with President Bush on a few things but he still has my support, but there is a time to focus on the whole picture, do you want Alan Keyes or "Obama bin Hand Out the Welfare Cadillac?" To me and most of us here it seems, the choice is clear.



Also, I do support the idea of the States electing the senators over the current popular vote as the way it used to be. I do feel Obama can be dangerous, like Bill Clinton, he does seem to master the charisma and have the oratorial skills to boot. If Keyes doesn't win, hopefully at the very least he can bring issues to light that will show Obama as another tax and spend lefty.
15 posted on 08/22/2004 3:56:13 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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The margin would have been closer had Keyes not shoved his foot in his mouth.

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16 posted on 08/22/2004 3:57:37 PM PDT by mhking (Why is every city in Iraq a "Holy City?")
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To: quidnunc; Cincincinati Spiritus
So that means you probably won't waste your time posting on anymore Keyes threads?

The horse is dead right?


17 posted on 08/22/2004 4:03:32 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: Jeff Head
What we have now is a vast majority of Senators who are nothing but populists, serving in very powerful positions for seven years.

Well said. As you are well aware, the only people on the Right who think populism is good are those so far to the Right that they kiss the far Left right in the mouth.


$710.96... The price of freedom
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18 posted on 08/22/2004 4:03:45 PM PDT by rdb3 ("The Republican Party is the ship and all else is the sea." ---Frederick Douglass)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Obama was up by 100 pts. before Keyes got into the race

So true. He might not be able to count on Kerry either.

19 posted on 08/22/2004 4:08:02 PM PDT by swheats
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To: mhking
OMG !


click on it

20 posted on 08/22/2004 4:55:32 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry, release your records as GW did. Prove you were in Cambodia under Nixon in 1968)
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