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Vietnam Vet for Kerry: No Evidence for Cambodia Claim
NewsMax ^ | 8/22/04 | Carl Limbacher et al

Posted on 08/22/2004 10:57:11 AM PDT by pookie18

The leader of the group Vietnam Veterans for John Kerry said Sunday that Kerry's claim he invaded Cambodia during the Vietnam War was absolutely true, though it wasn't on Christmas Eve 1968, as Kerry originally insisted.

But when asked to produce documentation of the mission, VVFJK director John Hurley told "Fox News Sunday's" Chris Wallace that the only evidence to support the claim was "John Kerry's word." HURLEY: He was five miles into Cambodia, but not on that night. He was five miles into Cambodia on a different occasion. What's been confused here is the night. He was near Cambodia on Christmas Eve [1968]. That's well documented . . .

WALLACE: Well, then let me pursue that. What proof do you have that Kerry was ever five miles inside Cambodia?

HURLEY: John Kerry's word.

WALLACE: Do you have a single record?

HURLEY: No, I do not. [END OF EXCERPT]

Hurley insisted that "on the 94 boat, they were five miles deep into Cambodia," adding that Kerry's PCF 94 Swiftboat crewmates would "testify" to that fact.

But last week, Michael Medeiros, who served on PCF 94 with Kerry and appeared with him at the Democratic National Convention, told the Boston Globe that Kerry and his crew chased an enemy to the Cambodian border - but stopped there and never entered the country.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnhurley; kerrycambodia; kerrylies
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1 posted on 08/22/2004 10:57:12 AM PDT by pookie18
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HURLEY: He was five miles into Cambodia, but not on that night. He was five miles into Cambodia on a different occasion. What's been confused here is the night. He was near Cambodia on Christmas Eve [1968]. That's well documented . . .

Tomorrow it will be 4.5 miles. On Tuesday we should be down to 4 miles, etc . . . . . .

2 posted on 08/22/2004 11:00:02 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: pookie18
Hurley insisted that "on the 94 boat, they were five miles deep into Cambodia," adding that Kerry's PCF 94 Swiftboat crewmates would "testify" to that fact.

Ooops. kerry was on PCF-44 until January 29 or 30 when he took charge of PCF-94. Christmas? January? Not on the 94 boat.

3 posted on 08/22/2004 11:01:50 AM PDT by Bob
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But when asked to produce documentation of the mission, VVFJK director John Hurley told "Fox News Sunday's" Chris Wallace that the only evidence to support the claim was "John Kerry's word."

Ohhhhhhhh! Well then, if his word is good enough for you.....

What a Biggus Dorkus.

4 posted on 08/22/2004 11:02:30 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: pookie18

That was just after he accused the Swift Vets of changing their story.


5 posted on 08/22/2004 11:04:41 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: pookie18

Kerry is for more Purple Hearts for American Servicemen.
He voted against money for bullet proof vests.


6 posted on 08/22/2004 11:05:38 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (GEORGE WASHINGTON is nothing like a communist tyrant as stated by Kerry.)
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To: Bob
Ooops. kerry was on PCF-44 until January 29 or 30 when he took charge of PCF-94. Christmas? January? Not on the 94 boat.

Touche.

7 posted on 08/22/2004 11:05:40 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: pookie18

John Kerry says, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! I want my mommy!"



Or would that be, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!! Je veux ma mère! Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!"

The extra "waaaah" is necessary because the French are more sensitive... ;-)


8 posted on 08/22/2004 11:06:29 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Bob

Re his same seared Christmas '68 memory, he also claimed to have heard Pres. Nixon on the radio...26 days later, Nixon assumed the presidency...


9 posted on 08/22/2004 11:08:35 AM PDT by pookie18
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"John Kerry's word."....BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH..!
10 posted on 08/22/2004 11:08:57 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: Texas Eagle

>>What a Biggus Dorkus<<

Yeah. The heck with him and his wife, Incontinentia Buttucs.


11 posted on 08/22/2004 11:13:57 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The era of the Old Media monopoly is over-America's Berlin Wall has been torn down!)
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To: pookie18

I always confuse Chirstmas with other days....


12 posted on 08/22/2004 11:15:55 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Bob

Kerry wasn't even on PCF-94, dang, caught again in a lie.


13 posted on 08/22/2004 11:17:35 AM PDT by dila813
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To: pookie18

Had Kerry's boat crossed the line in hot pursuit it would not change anything. Kerry's story was that Nixon lied, and his proof was that he was "dispatched" to Cambodia with the president's knowledge.

But Kerry's boat-mates said no, we spent Christmas at Ka Sec. So he changed the story to say that they left Ka Sec headed for the border... but Nixon wasn't president on Christmas of '68, so now they say that it wasn't Christmas, it was some other date.

He claimed that he was inserting special forces into Cambodia, but veterans have pointed out that special forces didn't use swift boats for insertion. So now the story is that, maybe, it was hot pursuit. But hot pursuit doesn't fit his claims before Congress that Nixon lied.

And both stories have the unfortunate feature that they remind us that our guys were not allowed to cross the border after the enemy, who was allowed safe haven by self-inflicted policy that allowed the enemy to cross borders our guys coudn't cross. By his complaint he accepts that limitation as legitimate, and violations of it by Green Beret as illegitimate. Nixon eventually ended that policy, and sent the army across to deny the enemy safe haven, an action that Kerry supporters to this day consider to be criminal.


14 posted on 08/22/2004 11:18:04 AM PDT by marron
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So.

- When was Veterans for Kerry founded? Before or after Lurch was nominated?

- What are the ties between this democratic front group for the Kerry campaign, the DNC, and the Kerry campaign?

- Where are they getting their money?

Think the mainstream media is going to ask any of these questions? Think the interviews of any of these people are going to be followed by rebuttals by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?

I didn't think so.


15 posted on 08/22/2004 11:22:56 AM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: pookie18

BUMP FOR THE SUPPORT OF SWIFT VETS HERE... http://www.swiftvets.com/


16 posted on 08/22/2004 11:27:08 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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Excert from UNFIT FOR COMMAND:

"Areas closer than 55 miles to the Cambodian border in the area of the Mekong River were patrolled by PBR's, a small river patrol craft, and not by Swift Boats. Preventing border crossings was considered so important at that time that an LCU (a large, mechanized landing craft) and several PBR's were stationed to ensure that no one could cross the border. A large sign at the border prohibited entry. Tom Anderson,Commander of the River Division 531, who was in charge of the PBR's, confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and that they would have been stopped had they appeared."


Had Kerry gone on a mission into Cambodia he needed clearance from someone, hence a paper trail.


There is testimony that Kerry had problems reading charts and keeping the Swift Boat off sandbars, so it's a safe bet he didn't get to Cambodia some other way. ;)

17 posted on 08/22/2004 11:41:35 AM PDT by G.Mason (UNFIT FOR COMMAND Buy it - Read it)
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- When was Veterans for Kerry founded? Before or after Lurch was nominated?

I don't know about the date it was founded but John Hurley, their spokesman and a big-wig in the group, goes back to kerry's VVAW days where he was an officer in that organization as well.

18 posted on 08/22/2004 11:41:51 AM PDT by Bob
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To: marron
right on, in fact they considered Nixon's actions to be the cause of the destabilization of Cambodia and why the Khmer Rouge massacred millions of Cambodians.

As if the Khmer Rouge were nice peaceful people who wouldn't have hurt a fly before Nixon got them all riled up.

There were a lot of mistakes made in the Vietnam war, but most of them revolve around not killing communists as many communists as you can wherever they go.

Millions of Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians have paid and are paying the price.

I wonder how many Kerry voters there are in the vietnamese community.

19 posted on 08/22/2004 11:44:36 AM PDT by delapaz
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20 posted on 08/22/2004 11:45:08 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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