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Don't Just Preach to the Choir on Kerry-Vietnam

Posted on 08/22/2004 10:08:01 AM PDT by S.O.L.

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ads and the book Unfit for Command have traction and have legs.

But, we must not just discuss them here.

The liberal press ignores most the facts, but even the few friendly reporters or comentators may not know much of what is known here. In addition to posting here, it is important to email them when they do not raise or refute a point sothey will be better prepared to do so in the future.

It is also important to write letters to the editor.

We can't just preach to the choir here.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: band; boats; brothers; kerry; oneill; rassman; sbvt; swift; veterans; vietnam

1 posted on 08/22/2004 10:08:02 AM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: S.O.L.
Sounds right.

Could we list some "talking points" to help us compose our letters? I'm not talking about a form letter, but "one liners" or important points that need to be emphasized.

Lots of letters (not Freepers' I'm sure) kind of drift around; lack focus. Then, there are the rants, which I never finish reading.

The good ones are precise, concise, logical and fact checked. Also, fairly short.

Anyone else want to play?

2 posted on 08/22/2004 10:14:52 AM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: S.O.L.
My Favorite post for dims and trolls
who slither in here each day.
And the Lame Stream media
who find the real news on Free Republic,
then rewrite and spin the truth.


Mommy Heinz!
Help!

Look! What the Harvard Crimson wrote about me in 1970

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."



Now my shipmates on the
USS GRIDLEY CG-21
are attacking me.

Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.


They say I told lies in Tour of Duty
GRIDLEY CREW ARE LIKE
SWIFT BOAT VETS MEANIES!

Mommy : Can I please sell MY real book?
The New Soldier,
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans Against the War



Mommy : Please don't be mad
about my hero Al Hubbard.

Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony
"Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes),
turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam."



OOPS! I POOPED in my diaper again.

Mommy : Don't take my allowance away.
Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He is a Vietnam Vet.

Mommy : OOPS I Pooped again.

Mommy : Why did Hillary
"leak" FBI Files on me?
I even used her famous slogan?


"Kerry entered and abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered domestic animals
owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter."




It only takes one idiot to raze a village!
(My original response!)


Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?



3 posted on 08/22/2004 10:15:08 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: S.O.L.
Donate to the Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth SBVT Keep This Ad On The Air
4 posted on 08/22/2004 11:23:58 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
I can hardly wait to see the SwiftVets 28 minute documentary due out in September.

5 posted on 08/22/2004 11:54:03 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine

They have a documentary coming out?


6 posted on 08/22/2004 12:09:55 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rwfromkansas

Leiberman mentioned it...I think. Heard on one of the Sunday shows.


7 posted on 08/22/2004 12:23:08 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: S.O.L.

I posted this on a local Buffalo message board.
This is making them over there think and most didn't know most of the info.

They need to be educated..

The current war on terror has settled in Iraq, these insurgents (terrorists) are mainly being funded by Iran and will continue untill we take out the power sources and funding.

Peace and standing governments are breaking out all over Iraq and all the press can concentrate on is that freak terrorist Sadr.

He is a coward that covers himself under the protection of the mosques, he like saddam, the palestinians and the extremist followers of islam will not come out of these holy places because they know that we will not destroy their holy sites.

In WWII we destroyed steeples because they were a perfect place for snipers. Is every building in Iraq a holy place?

I for one remember vividly the testimony before the senate, the protests in Washington in the late 60's and 70's
I remember watching jane fonda, john kerry and the anti war movement that swept the country, all this as I held a draft card in my hand awaiting my call.

I remember our Troops coming home, getting spit on, yelled at, attacked and treated like *****.

The anti war freaks of the past are now running for power in the Whitehouse. They are trying their best to turn everyone against this war too. They just haven't started accusing our troops of killing babies yet, oops, yes they have. My error.

The democrats scream in horror at the treatment of the "prisioners" in abu grab prison, my god the humiliation of having panties put on your head.
This while our Troops are getting killed and our citizens and citizens from around the world are getting their heads cut off.

The intellegence community all over the world said their was WMD in saddams hands and that he would use them. Two Arab leaders said the same thing. This of course is being used as the only reason we went to war in Iraq, and that President Bush lied.

President Bush didn't lie, the intellegence was wrong, or was it?
we have found mustard gas, missles outlawed by the UN charter, russian migs, and thousand upon thousands of innocent Iraqi and Kurdish citizens buried in mass graves..

Why are there issues out there about our troops and supplies?
This is what was cut during the Clinton administration.
709,000 REGULAR (ACTIVE DUTY) PERSONNEL.
293,000 RESERVE TROOPS
EIGHT STANDING ARMY DIVISIONS.
20 AIR FORCE AND NAVY AIR WINGS WITH 2,000 COMBAT AIRCRAFT.
232 STRATEGIC BOMBERS.
19 STRATEGIC BALLISTIC MISSILE SUBMARINES WITH 3,114 NUCLEAR WARHEADS ON 232 MISSILES.
500 ICBMs WITH 1,950 WARHEADS.
FOUR AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND 121 SURFACE COMBAT SHIPS AND SUBMARINES PLUS ALL THE SUPPORT BASES, SHIPYARDS, AND
LOGISTICAL ASSETS NEEDED TO SUSTAIN SUCH A NAVAL FORCE.

there shouldn't be any wonder why we are using so many reserve and guard troops..

Why hasn't Kerry spoke about his senate record ?
Does he really support our Troops and a strong Military as he says he does? Have a look at his voting record.

He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle
the M-1 Abrams Tank
every aircraft carrier laid down from 1988.
the Aegis anti aircraft system
the F-15 Strike Eagle
the Block 60 F-16
the P-3 Orion upgrade
the B-1
the B-2
the Patriot Anti Missile System
the FA-18
F117
In short, he voted to kill every military appropriation for the
development and deployment of every weapons systems since 1988 to include
the battle armor for our troops. With Kerry as president our Army will be
made up of naked men running around with sticks and clubs.

He also voted to kill all anti terrorism activities of every agency of the
U.S. Government and to cut the funding of the FBI by 60%, to cut the
funding for the CIA by 80%, and cut the funding for the NSA by 80%.

But then he voted to increase OUR funding for U.N operations by 800%!!!

In esscence, Kerry lied as our Troops died in Vietnam
Kerry's career is based on the lies told about our Men in Vietnam.
Would I vote for Kerry? No, didn't when I lived in Massachusetts and surely won't now.
I for one refuse to live under the reigns of the United Nations.


I will be voting for President Bush, he has a record of supporting our Men and Women in uniform that are fighting the enemy in Iraq so we don't have to fight them on our own soil..


8 posted on 08/22/2004 12:28:15 PM PDT by The Mayor (God gives grace for this life and glory in the life to come.)
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To: The Mayor
I dont't know how many emails most commentators have time to read. There is a better chance of them being read if they are short and pithy - and address just one point, rather than a long series of talking points. My idea was that as we listen to a broadcast or read something, then we write the commentator or author about the points they should have raised - but may not have because they were not aware of them.

There is already a message thread on Kerry talking points here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189928/posts

9 posted on 08/23/2004 3:00:25 PM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: S.O.L.

This was posted at http://www.speakupwny.com/ on a message board.

Not in an email..and I posted it in my website
http://www.rusthompson.com/KerryPage.html


10 posted on 08/23/2004 3:05:03 PM PDT by The Mayor (God gives grace for this life and glory in the life to come.)
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