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To: risk
It's neither. It's an argument against illegal immigration.

I've already told you exactly how to solve illegal immigration, but you don't want to do that, so clearly you're worried about more than just illegal immigration. What could it be I wonder?

rule of law isn't important to you

Sure it is. I just like changing stupid laws. Our country has done so throughout our history.

who doesn't see that we're at war and our borders need defending

Of course I believe we're at war. I also realize that you defeat this enemy by killing them and cutting off their financial supplies, not by arresting them. John Kerry and you believe that you can stop terrorists by arresting them. I think you stop terrorists by killing them. I also realize there's a difference in Mexicans that want to work here and Al Qaeda members.

You're not explaining how we're going to pay for all of this aid we're offering.

Elect people who don't offer it. Texas has taken the opposite approach to the California approach, and not only does Texas not have nearly the budget problems that California has, it's Hispanics are also far more likely to vote GOP than Hispanics in California. Your mistake is taking out your anger for CA liberals on Mexicans. Really stupid way to solve the problem. Just FYI.

Change is coming, and because most Americans agree that our borders need defending and immigration should be regulated, it will be you who is left behind.

If most Americans supported doing what you propose, it would be done. Politicians do what the majority of their constituents want. But most Americans don't want to do what you propose. It's one thing to tell a pollster that you want to kick out all illegal immigrants... it's another to deal with the massive hikes in federal spending, federal restrictions, and federal price hikes on goods and services that would come directly or indirectly from your proposal. Ain't gonna happen, Cletus. Sorry to disappoint you.

263 posted on 08/22/2004 1:16:25 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
There's one fatal flaw in your arguments. And it's 1,000 miles long. Even if we offered no programs, no social welfare, nothing to our own people even, (which will never happen and you know it!) Mexicans would come here just to set foot on this precious ground. Any third world citizen craves to stand on American soil.

Why? Because it is precious beyond value. It represents the most beautiful, free, and enlightened land on the earth to most third world people. And it won't stay that way if we keep inviting them here in droves. They would come here to live under a bridge, and with your zero government ideal in place, the land owners and factory owners would hire them at even lower wages that what they're illegally paid today.

All of your solutions are like every other Libertarian solution: you demand total capitulation to your ideal system and only then will things function properly.

Today's parties try to work within the realm of reality. It just so happens that on gun control and immigration, the Republicans think they can get elected more easily if they're soft. That's all about algebra, not about what's right and wrong. And they may be mistaken in their math.

If most Americans supported doing what you propose, it would be done.

Have you been watching the news lately? For 20 years it's been politically incorrect to call wetbacks illegal immigrants. This month it's suddenly fair game. Sure it's somewhat anti-Bush, but it's anti-Kerry, too.

The status quo is in tatters. Watch the world change all around you. It's coming, and it's coming fast.

264 posted on 08/22/2004 1:25:31 PM PDT by risk
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