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To: Texas_Dawg
There's one fatal flaw in your arguments. And it's 1,000 miles long. Even if we offered no programs, no social welfare, nothing to our own people even, (which will never happen and you know it!) Mexicans would come here just to set foot on this precious ground. Any third world citizen craves to stand on American soil.

Why? Because it is precious beyond value. It represents the most beautiful, free, and enlightened land on the earth to most third world people. And it won't stay that way if we keep inviting them here in droves. They would come here to live under a bridge, and with your zero government ideal in place, the land owners and factory owners would hire them at even lower wages that what they're illegally paid today.

All of your solutions are like every other Libertarian solution: you demand total capitulation to your ideal system and only then will things function properly.

Today's parties try to work within the realm of reality. It just so happens that on gun control and immigration, the Republicans think they can get elected more easily if they're soft. That's all about algebra, not about what's right and wrong. And they may be mistaken in their math.

If most Americans supported doing what you propose, it would be done.

Have you been watching the news lately? For 20 years it's been politically incorrect to call wetbacks illegal immigrants. This month it's suddenly fair game. Sure it's somewhat anti-Bush, but it's anti-Kerry, too.

The status quo is in tatters. Watch the world change all around you. It's coming, and it's coming fast.

264 posted on 08/22/2004 1:25:31 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
There's one fatal flaw in your arguments. And it's 1,000 miles long. Even if we offered no programs, no social welfare, nothing to our own people even, (which will never happen and you know it!) Mexicans would come here just to set foot on this precious ground. Any third world citizen craves to stand on American soil.

Many would. Many wouldn't. And what's wrong with them coming here to work? If there were no programs, they'd have to work just like every other immigrant that came here for years. Why don't you just be honest and admit that you just don't want more Mexicans in California?

All of your solutions are like every other Libertarian solution: you demand total capitulation to your ideal system and only then will things function properly.

I'm actually a Republican who understands how the free market and capitalism works. I also am not the one fretting over this issue (if you'll notice, it's you and your totalitarian friends that raise the biggest fuss over this issue) because millions of Mexicans come and go from the US each year currently. I'd just like to see the laws changed so that they could do so more freely and legally.

The status quo is in tatters. Watch the world change all around you. It's coming, and it's coming fast.

Haha. OK. Can you give me some examples of how this is happening? I can point to the millions upon millions of Mexicans that have immigrated here legally and illegally over the last couple decades (and the corresponding booming economy). What have you got to support your claim?

265 posted on 08/22/2004 1:36:39 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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