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To: Texas_Dawg
This is an argument against welfare, not against immigration.

It's neither. It's an argument against illegal immigration. Whether or not we personally like social welfare programs, if our laws specify welfare for citizens, we can set budgets and establish plans for taxes and program scope.

With illegal immigration, planning becomes impossible. Since rule of law isn't important to you, I can see why this argument is meaningless to you. You're either a Libertarian who doesn't see that we're at war and our borders need defending, or else you're a dupe of the bleeding heart left.

In either case, you're not telling us how we're going to manage the real problems we have because of illegal immigration. You're not explaining how we're going to pay for all of this aid we're offering. You're not offering us a means for dealing with the loss of capital we experience when illegal immigrants take their untaxed, under the table income and send it to their Mexican families. You're not presenting us with any ideas that are new and likely to help.

You just want things to stay the same. Change is coming, and because most Americans agree that our borders need defending and immigration should be regulated, it will be you who is left behind.

In the future, we'll have immigration, but our borders will be much less porous. It may not come during this president's term in office, but it will come. The leaders we have today who ignore this crisis will be voted out.

261 posted on 08/22/2004 1:00:45 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
It's neither. It's an argument against illegal immigration.

I've already told you exactly how to solve illegal immigration, but you don't want to do that, so clearly you're worried about more than just illegal immigration. What could it be I wonder?

rule of law isn't important to you

Sure it is. I just like changing stupid laws. Our country has done so throughout our history.

who doesn't see that we're at war and our borders need defending

Of course I believe we're at war. I also realize that you defeat this enemy by killing them and cutting off their financial supplies, not by arresting them. John Kerry and you believe that you can stop terrorists by arresting them. I think you stop terrorists by killing them. I also realize there's a difference in Mexicans that want to work here and Al Qaeda members.

You're not explaining how we're going to pay for all of this aid we're offering.

Elect people who don't offer it. Texas has taken the opposite approach to the California approach, and not only does Texas not have nearly the budget problems that California has, it's Hispanics are also far more likely to vote GOP than Hispanics in California. Your mistake is taking out your anger for CA liberals on Mexicans. Really stupid way to solve the problem. Just FYI.

Change is coming, and because most Americans agree that our borders need defending and immigration should be regulated, it will be you who is left behind.

If most Americans supported doing what you propose, it would be done. Politicians do what the majority of their constituents want. But most Americans don't want to do what you propose. It's one thing to tell a pollster that you want to kick out all illegal immigrants... it's another to deal with the massive hikes in federal spending, federal restrictions, and federal price hikes on goods and services that would come directly or indirectly from your proposal. Ain't gonna happen, Cletus. Sorry to disappoint you.

263 posted on 08/22/2004 1:16:25 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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