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To: risk
You like the fact that Californians are paying millions and millions of dollars in support to illegal immigrants? And that situation is just in one single county! There are hundreds of millions of dollars going to illegal immigrants. That's my tax revenue. That's my budget. That's my future savings.

Then don't elect people who give out welfare payments. This is an argument against welfare, not against immigration. And I doubt you complain that much about all the cash you save thanks to Mexican immigrants (legal or otherwise) when you go to the restaurant, Wal-Mart, golf course, hotel, etc.

We don't mind legal, limited immigration.

Sounds like Democrats and the AFL-CIO talking about capitalism. They're all for it... as long as the federal government "limits" it. Sickening.

As immigration from Mexico has skyrocketed over the last two decades, so has our economy and so has the GOP. How do you explain that (after all, you're losing millions, right)?

259 posted on 08/22/2004 12:48:33 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
This is an argument against welfare, not against immigration.

It's neither. It's an argument against illegal immigration. Whether or not we personally like social welfare programs, if our laws specify welfare for citizens, we can set budgets and establish plans for taxes and program scope.

With illegal immigration, planning becomes impossible. Since rule of law isn't important to you, I can see why this argument is meaningless to you. You're either a Libertarian who doesn't see that we're at war and our borders need defending, or else you're a dupe of the bleeding heart left.

In either case, you're not telling us how we're going to manage the real problems we have because of illegal immigration. You're not explaining how we're going to pay for all of this aid we're offering. You're not offering us a means for dealing with the loss of capital we experience when illegal immigrants take their untaxed, under the table income and send it to their Mexican families. You're not presenting us with any ideas that are new and likely to help.

You just want things to stay the same. Change is coming, and because most Americans agree that our borders need defending and immigration should be regulated, it will be you who is left behind.

In the future, we'll have immigration, but our borders will be much less porous. It may not come during this president's term in office, but it will come. The leaders we have today who ignore this crisis will be voted out.

261 posted on 08/22/2004 1:00:45 PM PDT by risk
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To: Texas_Dawg
As immigration from Mexico has skyrocketed over the last two decades

So has health costs.

Link to FAIR's data on immigrants and sky-rocketing medical cost

You mentioned the AFL-CIO earlier. You should know that the AFL-CIO and yourself are on the same side of this issue. They are wanting amnesty for illegals then they plan to go in and organize them. Once organized into a union, they will demand higher wages and more benefits from their employers. It would also be safe to say that most of them will be voting democratic. There goes that cheap labor and the conservative vote will become more diluted.

280 posted on 08/22/2004 5:11:10 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-sa)
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