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WaPo Finds New Swift Boat Witness, Says Enemy Fired During Rassman Rescue
Saturday, August 21, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/21/2004 7:09:06 PM PDT by kristinn

The Washington Post, in a late day addition to their Sunday issue already posted online, reports that a Swift boat veteran who declined to join the anti-Kerry Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has stated that there was enemy fire coming from the river banks during the incident where John Kerry rescued Jim Rassman.

But yesterday, The Post independently contacted a participant who has not spoken out so far in favor of either camp who remembers coming under enemy fire. "There was a lot of firing going on, and it came from both sides of the river," said Wayne D. Langhofer, who manned a machine gun aboard PCF-43, the boat that was directly behind Kerry's.

Langhofer said he distinctly remembered the "clack, clack, clack" of enemy AK-47s, as well as muzzle flashes from the riverbanks. Langhofer...said he was approached several months ago by leaders of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth but declined their requests to speak out against Kerry.

Curiously, The Post buried this news deep in the story. One wonders if this is one of the people Kerry contacted and asked to come forward.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: kerry; michaeldobbs; swiftboatveterans
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1 posted on 08/21/2004 7:09:06 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

This is becoming so laughable.


2 posted on 08/21/2004 7:10:12 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: kristinn

> Langhofer said he distinctly remembered ...

Isn't this the other name on the Thurlow citation?

If so, for Langhofer to say otherwise would be to admit
that he helped Kerry falsify the report.


3 posted on 08/21/2004 7:12:46 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: kristinn

They'll be crawling out of the sewers now....


4 posted on 08/21/2004 7:12:56 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again. -- John Kerry)
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To: kristinn

what I don't understand is why the VC magically stopped firing once Kerry pulled Rassman out of the water onto the boat....no one has ever asked him what happened after he got back onboard


5 posted on 08/21/2004 7:13:00 PM PDT by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: Bobber58

It was all a dream, Auntie Em.


6 posted on 08/21/2004 7:15:16 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: kristinn

With such heavy enemy fire we must have suffered many casualties on this day. Or at least the boats were shot up... Or ....?


7 posted on 08/21/2004 7:16:44 PM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: kristinn
Kristinn, if you check Mickey Kaus' blog at the MS/NBC website, he said there was going to be a major newspaper article that would be an assault on the credibilty of the Swift Boat Vets. Rood's article in the Chicago Tribune was that assault.

Now we have Dowd in the New York Times and other flacks in other major newspapers joining the assault. This has been carefully coordinated.

Tomorrow, expect this to be the major story on the TV shows of the chattering classes. This is the offensive.

8 posted on 08/21/2004 7:16:48 PM PDT by Publius (Mother Nature is a hanging judge.)
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To: kristinn

The most bullet holds reported by anybody was three. No injuries reported. I didn't think the VC were such pi$$ poor shots.


9 posted on 08/21/2004 7:17:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Bobber58
Good point. The Swifties surrounded the men in the water to protect them so the men on board were sitting ducks. If I remember correctly, an AK-47 is a machine gun. But even if I'm wrong, it's odd that they couldn't hit anybody who was basically standing there waiting to get shot.

This guy says he only remembers the "clack, clack, clack" and flashes coming from the riverbank. Evidently he didn't hear the fire coming from his own boat. So why wouldn't our guys shoot back?

10 posted on 08/21/2004 7:18:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: kristinn
Freeper N. Theknow says:
"It’s faster than a checkbook, more powerful than a Democratic demagogue, able to lay waste to a liar Kerry with the single click of a mouse. It's a little bird of truth, it's plain to see Kerry's unfit... it's... it's...SuperFReep!

Want to join in the fun? Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

11 posted on 08/21/2004 7:18:57 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: proudpapa

Our guys "got em" but there were no medals for killing the enemy (since no enemy was confirmed).


12 posted on 08/21/2004 7:19:30 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Sunshine55

"They'll be crawling out of the sewers now...."

Brother are you ever right about that. By the time this is over, there will be more RATS claiming to be Swift Boat veterens that witnessed John Kerry performing extradinary feats than the number of forces that ever spent time in Vietnam.

Kerry needs to sign the release form on his military records - all of them.


13 posted on 08/21/2004 7:20:09 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: kristinn
Curiously, The Post buried this news deep in the story. One wonders if this is one of the people Kerry contacted and asked to come forward.

This is only speculation-- but I have to wonder if there is not more to this fellow's background story either while he was in 'Nam or since then. Remember the Brown Books that were supposedly done on all the SwiftVets by the Kerry campaign--what is to stop the campaign from doing books on more people? This guy and the one at the Chicago Trib--it is just too convenient that they are coming forward now.

Remember I am only speculating here.

(Going to the kitchen for another roll of heavy duty aluminum foil.)

14 posted on 08/21/2004 7:20:16 PM PDT by Tarheel (Nothin' could be finer than to be in Carolina in the morning.)
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To: kristinn
WaPo Finds New Swift Boat Witness, Says Enemy Fired During Rassman Rescue

Gee, John, you wouldn't have even had to rescue Rassman if you hadn't hauled ass away from you fellow Swifties as fast as you could gun your boat, would you?

15 posted on 08/21/2004 7:21:22 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: kristinn

I recall reading here that this was a relatively narrow river and wonder with all the Kerry reported enemy fire why no boats were hit. Glad the issue is not dying on the vine.

mc


16 posted on 08/21/2004 7:21:28 PM PDT by mcshot ("When you don't think too good, don't think too much" Ted Williams)
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To: Boundless

Where is this citation or an article about it?


17 posted on 08/21/2004 7:24:47 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: kristinn
* bump *

Ten bucks says he (Langhorn) is unavailable for interviews or questions. No affidavit either.

18 posted on 08/21/2004 7:27:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Texas Eagle

"If I remember correctly, an AK-47 is a machine gun."

The AK-47 was the main Soviet soldier's weapon for many years. The exported it all over the communist world and third world countries. Like the original U.S. M16 and M16A1, it can fire both in a semi-automatic and full automatic mode. The cartridge it fires is a 7.62x39mm. The Soviets replaced it in their forces in the 80s with the AK74 with fires a smaller round like the M16. The AK47 is still used extensively in third world places. Almost all the firearms you see Iraqi insurgents using are AK47s.


19 posted on 08/21/2004 7:29:07 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Boundless
Isn't this the other name on the Thurlow citation?

No. The other name (on the recommendation) is Lambert. Lambert is the sole eyewitness cited on Thurlow's Bronze Star recommendation letter.

20 posted on 08/21/2004 7:29:27 PM PDT by Cboldt
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