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The monster house next door. 5 Tips: Preventing a "McMansion" next to your bungalow.
CNN ^ | 8/20/04 | Gerri Willis

Posted on 08/21/2004 12:27:52 PM PDT by lowbridge

For many Americans, bigger is better when it comes to their homes. The facts speak for themselves: According to the Census Bureau, the average home size has swelled 40 percent since the early 70's.

According to National Association of Homebuilders, 19 percent of homes built in 2003 were 3,000 square feet or more. But the appetite for larger and larger homes has run afoul of some. Namely those who've watched super-sized structures crop up next door.

How can you fight "McMansion" expansion where you live? Here are today's 5 Tips.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cnn; housing; landuse; propertyrights; zoning
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To: cinFLA
One. You live to slander. I did not whine and you can't point to where I did. Do it or shut up.

Two. I have an interest. Her house affects the property value of my mother's house which consists of part of her trust which I am the trustee and also beneficiary. I can start by stating that you have NO horse in this race. Your premise that it MAY effect the property value of something you MAY inherit. You whined about the fact that someone built something next to your mother's FRIEND, not next to your mother... How does that afect her value??? You are so full of yourself, that it astounds.

Well, maybe you did not stop to think that they have the same rights, as your mom's friend. You are just illustrating the classic NIMBY kneejek! Property rights are usually very clear, and with today's climate, I am sure they followed the law.

In the mid'90's, Disney wanted to build a Themepark in Northern Virginia. The area they wanted is not far from the horse farms of Middleburg (#1 $$$/household demographic Zip code in US). The hue and cry of "they will ruin us " soured the deal. Now, when you wish to drive from I-66 to US 17/50 to Winchester, you have a 45 mph speed limit on a road that used to be 55, for they found out they had power to keep the hoi-poloi away, or at least make it more desirable to use another route... They also banned trucks, causing a re-route which adds about 65 miles to their trip,

Go make a fortune, and build your own monster...that is the best revenge, anyway!!!

You mostly seem to be a troll, looking for an argument! I am here to give it...

221 posted on 08/22/2004 4:29:45 PM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: lowbridge
I had a medium-sized, but unbelievably ugly piece of crap built next to me, complete with its own hideous Walmart-clearance-aisle streetlights. It looks like a replica of a suburban-Phoenix 7/11 store.

What the hell can I do about that?

222 posted on 08/22/2004 4:33:03 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: cinFLA

For you in FLa, NIMBY means "Not in my back yard"!


223 posted on 08/22/2004 4:33:36 PM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: Hank Rearden
What the hell can I do about that?

Move!

224 posted on 08/22/2004 4:34:29 PM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: pageonetoo

The thought is under consideration, but I think the piece-o-crap has lowered neighborhood property values. Seriously.


225 posted on 08/22/2004 4:36:39 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: pageonetoo
You whined

No. I stated a fact. That is not whining.

226 posted on 08/22/2004 5:05:03 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: pageonetoo
Your premise that it MAY effect the property value of something you MAY inherit.

That was not my premise in my first post. You responded with a falsehood, so I countered.

227 posted on 08/22/2004 5:08:08 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Porterville

Well, you can live out in the boonies when you're young. After that house has appreciated, you can move in closer.

There are also smaller homes for about $500K, and you could afford that on $150K.


228 posted on 08/22/2004 5:12:15 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: pageonetoo
You whined about the fact that someone built something next to your mother's FRIEND, not next to your mother... How does that afect her value??? You are so full of yourself, that it astounds.

I never stated that.

229 posted on 08/22/2004 5:12:31 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Porterville

Also forgot to say, that sometimes companies will help with the down payment of a home if they want someone to work for them. That's what neighbors of ours did.


230 posted on 08/22/2004 5:14:02 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Physicist

But if homes aren't affordable, then why are new home construction and home ownership at all-time highs? Why is there no demand for small, "affordable" houses, but a huge demand for McMansions?

I think it's like the internet bubble collapse. When these people are literally living from pay check to pay check it'll get really tiresome when they hit 45 yrs of age from burn out trying to keep up with all the bills and the Jones next door. Tragic fools


231 posted on 08/22/2004 5:18:00 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: lowbridge; All

I think people should shut up.. Whatever happend to private property?


232 posted on 08/22/2004 5:21:03 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Hank Rearden
What the hell can I do about that?

Arson? And blame it on ELF?

233 posted on 08/22/2004 5:31:36 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: luckystarmom

What I've been reading is that the good times are over and there will be a retraction... as I understand, now is not the time to buy... at least in CA so we will see.


234 posted on 08/22/2004 5:50:34 PM PDT by Porterville (Liberals... what can you say.... nobody wants you anymore.)
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To: luckystarmom
Here is my plan... when all the people who borrowed on the equity from over values on their houses end up with debt unrecoverable from the sell of their homes.... that is when I will buy...

During 1999 I noticed a whole bunch of folks buying Internet Stocks; every person from the paperboy to the physician wanted a piece of Silicon Valley..... I knew that when a guy with a nail stuck in his frontal lobe is talking about investments.... it maybe a good time to figure out what is going on... I knew clowns movin' up north who couldn't boil spagehtti getting jobs paying 60-100 dollars per year- they had no job skills. (how do I know? I went to school with them and spent many hours with them).... I asked, "What is going on up there? Steer clear, steer clear..."

That is exactly what I am seeing now.... when a mortgage is 500,000 dollars and the house is renting for 1300 dollars... and the owners are borrowing on the equity... and all the screwball variable mixed in that I fail to articulate (but have posted links to previously)~~~ It ain't a pretty sight>>> Next summer, after the incumbents are back in their political seats, look for hardly used vehicles for cheap in the LA area>>> A year later.... houses... I plan to buy my next house summer 2006

235 posted on 08/22/2004 6:00:26 PM PDT by Porterville (Liberals... what can you say.... nobody wants you anymore.)
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To: cinFLA
My mother's best friend has a one story house located on the water but it convers only...

I sure must have read this wrong. It says your mother has a friend. It did not say your mother lived next to it, or anywhere near it.

As previously stated, you seem to be nothing more than a troll looking for an argument. The only challenge is that you don't know what you are talking about most of the time.

You are just knee-jerking. You do it well!

236 posted on 08/22/2004 6:11:19 PM PDT by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: Irish Eyes

You pay no capital gains tax if you sell your primary residence and have owned it for more than two years.


237 posted on 08/23/2004 5:00:10 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: KevinDavis

"I think people should shut up.. Whatever happend to private property?"

I think people should stop censoring. Whatever happened to freedom of thoughts and speech? This is only a message forum where people can exchange opinions.



238 posted on 08/23/2004 6:02:56 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: FITZ

Absolutely! They move to the country for the "rural ambience" and then they want curb and gutter, sidewalks, street lights, public sewer & water (which leaves their neighbor with huge connection fees cause we're all forced to connect). They wag the dog at city hall because of their numbers and tax presence and they get their way.

One case out here was a subdivision placed next to a farm -- farmer had to eliminate his chicken house and oultry operation (previously legal). Another case, subdivision goes in next to an owner who kept a couple of horses -- horse owner had to eliminate his electric fence because his new neighbor was afraid his children would get shocked -- keep the kids home, or buy a different house!

Another case with the same subdivision, the new home owner's association sued the owner of the original farm house because she had a metal swing set in her yard. Their association rules (original farm house owner was grandfathered into the subdivision because one of her driveway exits opened on to the subdivision main street) prohibited metal swing sets -- they wanted only fancy wooden climbing apparatuses visible in the subdivision. You know, the kind with the canvas tents on top and the plastic slides. My friend counter sued and won -- cost the homeowners assn. $50,000 in atty. fees and the judge sent them home!

Another area around here is always complaining about the geese and the deer. Well, I've got news. The geese and the deer were here long before the people. They sure don't bother me. I have plenty of grass and bushes they can chew on. (I do get irritated with groundhogs and raccoons, however.)


239 posted on 08/23/2004 8:52:59 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: sauropod
However, having covenants and zoning stomps all over the property rights of the individual.

You enter into covenants voluntarily when you buy a piece of property. Similarly, you know about zoning laws when you buy a property, so you are consenting to those rules, too.

It's nice to say that zoning is evil, but the alternative is allowing construction to occur without taking into account population densities, the ability of infrastructure to handle the new development, the effect such development will have on neighboring properties etc.

240 posted on 08/23/2004 9:03:04 AM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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