Interesting observations on the timing of John Kerry's honorable discharge.

Instapundit ^ | 8/21/04 | Glenn Reynolds

[Brian Mosely]

THIS KERRY SERVICE TIMELINE from the Associated Press in the Boston Globe says Kerry was honorably discharged in 1970, and then joined the anti-war movement:

January 1970: Kerry requests discharge. He is honorably discharged, and later joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

But that's wrong:

Kerry was transfered to the Naval Reserves in 1970, and Honorably Discharged in 1978. There was no two year service gap, despite the impression given by his press releases.

But not all of his press releases. In fact, it's made quite clear in this July release from the Kerry campaign:

Kerry volunteered for the United States Navy after college and served from 1966 through 1970 rising to the rank of Lieutenant, Junior Grade. Afterwards, Kerry continued his military service in the United States Naval Reserves through 1978.

(Same here, too: "John Kerry Enlisted in the U.S. Navy; November 1968 through March 1969, Served in Vietnam; 1970-1978, Served in U.S. Navy Reserves.") In other words, when Kerry was protesting the war and holding private meetings with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong representatives in Paris, he was still a Naval officer in the reserves. The folks at AP and the Globe might not think that matters, but they ought to report this so that people can make up their own minds -- and they ought to get it right. Especially when the correct information is right on the Kerry website, and when their fellow journalists are accusing blogs of sloppiness. . . .

UPDATE: Reader Larry Ferguson emails: "Maybe the official US Navy document on John Kerry's website listing Kerry's service dates in the Navy (including the reserve) does not rise to Tom Oliphant's level of verification for use in journalism."

Heh.

[Inge C]

Judicial Watch has put together a good charge, sent to the Dept. of Defense etc. with the request to investigate Kerry. He did commit treason, as he protested, and sought meetings with the Vietcong, while still in the Service.No matter how he spins it, he remains a liar and opportunist.

[Wolverine]

This came in by email, I don't know the author.

 

Some Call it Treason ........

This was passed on by a retired Admiral who once commanded the  Aircraft Carrier Midway and later led a Battle Group into the Mediterranean on  orders of Reagan. After all the attacks on GWB's reserve records, this should  end that debate.

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for  6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year  of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & #5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3  years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills  per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was  also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as  a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements  against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially  during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty  per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these  records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive. On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval  Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the  War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was  displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

 

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on
assassinating  members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US  Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television,  and condemned the military and the USA

 

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in
direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S.  Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of  Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with  NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104  part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's  subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our  military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving  aid and comfort to the enemy".

[freddiedavis]

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[SGTARKyTEK]

so. is it possible he was awol too in 70-78?

[mabelkitty]

Don't forget planning to murder sitting Conservative Senators with VVAW.

[mabelkitty]

Don't forget planning to murder sitting Conservative Senators with VVAW.

[mabelkitty]

Don't forget planning to murder sitting Conservative Senators with VVAW.

[schaketo]

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[The Mayor]

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[hansel]

I am so incredibly pi$$ed off by this bull$hit! ONE guy comes out to "refute" silver star story which was not the most hotly contested medal anyway and the media jumps all over this like a pig in $hit! Meanwhile, just like with the Bronze star/thurlow story, the claims actually support the swift vets story yet the swift vets are FLAWED! Oh the horrors! Those 254 eeeeevil Republican vets all assigned to those swift boats are Bush stooges! Instead of the journalists asking each other about the swift boat claims why don't they directly ask the swift vets who are actually making the claims. In fact, here's a better idea:why doesn't the media ask JF'nK to answer the vets directly! How about them military/medical records, John F'n!?
I think I'm going to stroke out tomorrow in front of the Sunday shows if they are all about the "collusion" of Bush and the vets and this stupid f'n article from a guy who hit and run. You know, HERE'S MY STORY BUT I'M GOING INTO HIDING AND I'M NOT TAKING ANY QUESTIONS! and not about the 2nd ad.

/rant off

I feel a little better now.

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[Chieftain]

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[petercooper]

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[DoctorZIn]

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[Chieftain]

Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably.

He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted but puposely held up by an insider working for him in the Pentagon till Bush was sworn in! That's how crafty this Slimeball is!

His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

This will blow up in his face before October 15th.

[Feiny]

I just got that in an email....What is the proof that he was not discharged until 2001? That doesn't pass the smell test.

[Chieftain]

I think we got the same email, from a Navy Seal. Maybe bogus, but I read on Newsmax that the Navy if officially invetigating his medals and maybe they'll delve into this matter? I hope so!

[southland]

RE post 34: I like your theory of Kerry's Bad Conduct Discharge or something similar. I am sure there are Officer efficiency reports that will reveal what happened if someone can access them.

[Chieftain]

Thats why Kerry won't sign the SF-180 and release ALL his military records!

[JCG]

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves?

I doubt he made any drills. Showing up sporting that ragmop hair style he had in those days, his CO would've kicked his butt -- or should have, anyway.

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