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*****HUMAN EVENTS FIRST-RUN EXCLUSIVE*****: POWs Join Swift Boat Vets in Criticism of Kerry
Human Events Online ^ | August 20, 2004 | Human Events

Posted on 08/20/2004 7:08:59 AM PDT by hinterlander

Edited on 08/20/2004 7:30:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Here's the newest ad from the Swifties.

* Moderator note. For those using Firefox browser, you may need to use this link to see the ad

http://a1281.v125028.c12502.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1281/12502/v0001/eaglepub.download.akamai.com/12502/sellout.wmv


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ad; ads; election; goodbyekerry; humanevents; kerry; pow; swift; swiftboatveterans; swifties; thepartysoverso; turnoutthelights; veterans; vietnam
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To: Bob

I'll speculate that they aren't innocent.

I believe false information is posted on similar sounding websites hoping that some Bush supporters will use that information in an oral argument on TV or in the press and then the Kerry campaign can use those statements to attack the credibility of all the Swift vets.

But, that's just cynical me.


581 posted on 08/20/2004 10:33:36 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Sarge, I think your problem might be other than the pay version of Real Player, I have it (Real One Player), never have payed them a dime and I play "Real One" format files all the time. When I click on the link it brings up windows media player and it plays fine for me.

But I can't offer much more than that, media type files are not my bailiwick.
582 posted on 08/20/2004 10:34:31 AM PDT by BattleFlag (Yes, Goodnight Chesty, and John Basilone too....)
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To: Chieftain
I just sent in $1,000.00 today. I delayed doing so for a few days but I felt a huge responsibility to support this brave group of men that are ONCE AGAIN fighting for the good of our country. I am going to send the link of this latest ad to all of my friends and encourage them to donate also to support these great ads.
583 posted on 08/20/2004 10:34:58 AM PDT by RandDisciple
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Well I have been at an appointment all morning and just saw the ad. I do not post a great deal, but have about a 4 hr. a day habit on FR.

I could only get the audio and a portion of the video.

To echo what many have said, THIS AD IS ABSOLUTELY DEVESTATING TO THE KERRY CAMPAIGN, DEVESTATING. Stunning development in the presidential race. Well timed with the media attention to the Swifboat Vets...it is just going to suck all the oxygen from every other issue until the republican convention.

584 posted on 08/20/2004 10:35:05 AM PDT by reflecting (I'm reading what all of you are saying)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

Bless you - and all the other Vietnam vets here on FR. It's all finally getting to me - I'm sitting here, crying for all of you, that you may finally see a little bit of justice.

Thank God for these brave Swift vets.


585 posted on 08/20/2004 10:35:33 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: hinterlander
Bump for later distribution.

I'm going to spread this around.

586 posted on 08/20/2004 10:36:12 AM PDT by SpottedBeaver
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To: All

I am Olde North Church and I am a SBVT supporting-American.


587 posted on 08/20/2004 10:38:29 AM PDT by olde north church
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To: So Cal Rocket
Hmmm... I searched the GWB donation website for "Smogger" and didn't find anything.

:) Yeah I don't want to end up as part of an AP hit piece like Jerome R. Corsi who found offhand comments here turned against him, because he foolishly revealed his true identity to the public at large. That's the point of having a handle.

588 posted on 08/20/2004 10:39:39 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: GretchenM
Because John Kerry is from Massachusetts the most liberal state in the union.

In 1972 only one state voted for McGovern the anti-war candidate: The state of Massachusetts.

589 posted on 08/20/2004 10:40:03 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: wasp69
Thanks, all, for reading my vent.

Many thanks for writing it and for your service to America!

590 posted on 08/20/2004 10:40:49 AM PDT by jigsaw (Guns Before Grey Poupon.)
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To: areafiftyone

I pointed out to a Lefty I know that if Bush had said the exact same words about Michael Moore, the Presstitutes would explode, but with Kerry, they applaud, why? He actually, admitted that the MSM just might be biased :-)


591 posted on 08/20/2004 10:40:55 AM PDT by DelphiUser
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
"I'd like to see anyone, ANYONE, step up & slime these men. Of course, they wll not have the balls to attack former POW's like they attack 'ordinary' vets. "

Oh yes they will. This newfound love and respect they allegedly have for Vietnam war veterans is an ACT. Nothing but an act to regain them power. IF they had ANY respect or compassion WHATSOEVER they wouldn't have started the slime campaign to begin with. Kerry's handers would have told him to tone down the war hero rhetoric, knowing what a backlash it would cause.

In their eagerness to resurrect the Revolution of the Party's glory days, the idea all of our veterans would be anything but broken, meek and docile like McCain never entered their blackened, twisted, greasy little minds.

592 posted on 08/20/2004 10:41:40 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: WoodstockCat

This is so true. When I was active in the POW/MIA issue many years ago is when kerry's name popped up on my radar screen. Moreover, I was an assoc. member of the VVA at the time and I received their mag. "The Veteran". What I noticed in the mag. it was so far to the left. Everytime I would read it I would become angry. That's when I started doing some research to find out who these people were on the Nationial level. That's when I found out about their connection to the vvaw. Once I learned that...I quit the VVA and joined the group VVnW (Veterans of the Vietnam War). I was extremely active back then with the POW/MIA issue, but I had to stop because I was so involved in the issue I couldn't even sleep. It just broke my heart as it does to this day. We kept hitting so many brick walls it just breaks your heart knowing we left them behind and the likes of john kerry and his group was a huge part of it.


593 posted on 08/20/2004 10:41:52 AM PDT by CELTICGAEL (Celt) (Freedom isn't free, but if you vote for John Kerry....WE WILL PAY A HIGHER PRICE!!!)
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To: hinterlander

You Go Swifties!

"Such is the irresistible nature of truth that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing. "
Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man Introduction (1792)


594 posted on 08/20/2004 10:41:59 AM PDT by iching1
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To: jriemer; maica
I'm in for McCain in front of a camera no later than Noon EST.

I am hoping that McCain learned a lesson from his last Kerry support comment. Perhaps his love of America will finally outweigh his dislike and envy of George W. Bush.

He also worked with Kerry on normalizing relations with Viet Nam which included shredding lots of documents relating to MIA's to get a fresh start or some such dribble. It seems that all these years after Kerry and McCain led this campaign, Viet Nam is still a totalitarian state. Oh, here's a Kerry leadership activity. For him, it may have been about his cousin Mr. Forbes, getting a huge real estate deal with Viet Nam. Maybe someone can do an ad on that disgusting bit of Senate conniving.

595 posted on 08/20/2004 10:43:07 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: BattleFlag

Sarge, I think your problem might be other than the pay version of Real Player, I have it (Real One Player), never have payed them a dime and I play "Real One" format files all the time. When I click on the link it brings up windows media player and it plays fine for me.

But I can't offer much more than that, media type files are not my bailiwick.


Yeah mine either, got a friend that keeps hammering me to learn more about computers than just hardware repair. Maybe I should do that :)

Looks like I may have to DL just the free version and see if that helps. Thanks for the feedback :)


596 posted on 08/20/2004 10:44:25 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Goodnight Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Double WOW!!!

This should make people sit up and take notice.

Let the truth see the light of day!


597 posted on 08/20/2004 10:45:31 AM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: hummingbird

Hillary couldn't win if she had been in the race from the start.


598 posted on 08/20/2004 10:46:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: maryz

POWs Denouncing Kerry Include State Chair for
John McCain’s Presidential Bid



Posted August 20, 2004
By David Freddoso

The second in a series of anti-Kerry ads was released today by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. In the new ad, Vietnam-era POWs critically denounce John Kerry for his anti-war activities.

Despite today’s allegations in the New York Times that the group is a front for Bush political operatives, the harshest words for Kerry in the ad come from Paul Galanti, a former POW who served as Virginia campaign chairman for Bush rival Sen. John McCain (R.) and who was also an active member of Veterans for Mark Warner (the Democratic governor of Virginia) during Warner’s 2001 gubernatorial race.

“John Kerry gave the enemy, for free, what I and many of my comrades in North Vietnam, in the prison camps, took torture to avoid saying,” says Galanti, who was held prisoner for seven years in the prison camps of North Vietnam.

Referring to John Kerry’s Senate testimony of April 22, 1971, Galanti continues: “It demoralized us. He dishonored his country and, more importantly, the people he served with. He sold them out.”

In the ad [which can be seen on HumanEventsOnline.com], one wounded Swift Boat veteran and two former POW’s comment on Kerry’s testimony, in which Kerry accused U.S. troops of murdering 200,000 Vietnamese civilians per year, and gave a litany of gruesome atrocities that he claimed were commonplace in Vietnam -- "not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."

The new newsbreaking book, "Unfit for Command," (Regnery) documents the offenses Kerry cited in his sworn testimony. Many were allegations set forth in an anti-war meeting in Detroit earlier that year. Kerry related to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that "veterans" -- many of whom were later revealed to be frauds -- said at that meeting "they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."

Kerry also said that the United States was the world’s most egregious violator of the Geneva Convention, even as hundreds of captured Americans were tortured and languished in sub-human conditions as POWs in North Vietnam.

Ken Cordier, a POW from 1966 to 1973, appears in the Swift Boat Ad to explain how Kerry’s testimony was particularly devastating to POWs suffering in captivity. "That was part of the torture -- to sign a statement that you had committed war crimes," Cordier says in the ad. "He betrayed us in the past--how could we be loyal to him now?"


599 posted on 08/20/2004 10:46:51 AM PDT by Ramonan (You never get something for nothing.)
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To: olde north church
In an effort to help todays generation understand what kerry did, who he did it do, and how many people saw it, I need 2 things from you fellow freepers:

1) The list of shows that kerry was in from 1969 through 1975?
2) What were the ratings for these shows, or how could one get the ratings for these shows?

My point is this: Many people today see someone appearing on some talk show and they think it's like going on the late late show with kilborn, or something.

Going on, in the early 70s, Meet The Press, Dick Cavit and all the others, given the liberal media concentration at the time is the equivalent, in ratings terms, of going on CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox, and PBS combined !

Can any helpful freeper help on the above 2 questions ?

600 posted on 08/20/2004 10:47:28 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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